So ban law-abiding contraception, but enforce it for criminals?
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So ban law-abiding contraception, but ~~enforce~~ impose it ~~for~~ on criminals?
Will the Ten Commandments be force-branded on their chests, too?
Tattooed. See Kafka's "In The Penal Colony."
I'd rather see Tom Robinson:
Your loss, Kafka was one of history's greatest writers. I do not say that lightly.
No loss - I'm kafkaesque in real life. It's almost tragic.
What a completely awful way to not address anything other than a desire for vengeance from victims.
The same dumbass somehow thought a vasectomy would be a punishment for sex offenders?? What the fuck is in the water down there?
I mean it's not a secret. It's lead. There's lead in the water down there.
Wtf does a vasectomy even accomplish? Their dick will still work afterwards so it won't even stop them from re-offending. What is the logic here?
What is the logic here?
“Now the libs can’t bitch about vIcTiMs oF rAPE when they try to kill babies”, probably.
Source: live in the south
I am all for finding better ways to tackle sexual assault of any kind. But this is simply too far. As others I. This thread have pointed out: it’s cruel and unusual punishment, and doesn’t address the root of what drives sexual predators.
I’d like to add a new element to the conversation: wrongful convictions. Everyone already knows that going to jail as a child molester is probably going to end up very badly for them. So I could see people choosing castration as the lesser of two evils.
The National Registry of Exonerations found that Texas, despite having some of the toughest laws on crime, led the nation with 363 exonerations in the last 30 years. Other top states based on total numbers of exonerations were Illinois, New York, and California. In Louisiana, which had 63 exonerations in that period, New Orleans is said to be the wrongful conviction capital of the U.S.
(Emphasis mine)
https://www.nealdavislaw.com/criminal-defense-guides/exonerations-by-state-2019/
Sooooo make someone who has a fucked up itch not able to scratch anything… this is going to turn fucked up people into psycho killers. Public humiliation and punishment would be better than this. Put them in the stocks and let people throw tomatoes and pebbles and shit. Na, let’s cut off their balls. And what about female offenders? You going to just do a full hysterectomy? Just cut out their ovaries? Doesn’t quite work the same way with the opposite gender.
So most people will just take the jail time…. So why even use that language in the bill?
Oh they'll still be able to scratch it. Plenty of kids who were sexually assaulted as children can tell you that the person who assaulted them was not using their genitals in any way at the time. It's not actually about sex, it's about power. That's why this will be a complete failure.
The message I was trying to convey, put more concisely.
These idiots think pedophilia is about sexual gratification and not power.
This is a setup for project 2025. LGBTQ people will be charged as "sex offenders" next year if trump gets in office.
Florida already has trigger laws for the death penalty for sex crimes against children (which maggots have already tried to pin that title on drag queens when they were reading to them)
"Cruel and unusual punishment" then?
The worst of offenders won't be any less dangerous.
Lousiana sure has religious & genital fixations.
Alan Turing has entered the chat.
Definition of cruel and unusual in my book.
Methinks he doth protest too much.
Anyone who loudly proclaims their virtues only ever supplies me reason to question it. How long until landry and barrow themselves are castrated, I wonder.
Come on, we all know Republicans only make laws for little people. The people in charge are "good" people so they shouldn't be punished for "minor indiscretions."
Rules for thee, not for me. In group that laws protect but do not bind, out group that laws bind but do not protect. Etc. etc. etc.
In this case, it's a Democratic senator who proposed the law.
And Republicans will selectively apply it only to people they don't like, yes, exactly my point.
These "gotcha" bills from Democrats really don't understand that the "hypocrisy" of Republicans are actually expressions of power.
"I have the power to sign this bill into law that should and would totally apply to me, but I'm going to make sure I never face consequences under such a law. I have a team of good-old-boy judges who will stand in the way and accept any and all appeals from me."
They will never, ever see consequences of such laws. Look at the fucking lawfare every person in the Trump admin has thrown at the wall. It takes fucking decades for any of these chucklefucks to see any comeuppance. Look at Ken Paxton, the AG of Texas, who was under Federal Indictment for nearly a fucking decade and that case collapsed like a flan in a cupboard.
Further, he's opening the door to allowing Republicans to begin to claim that LGBTQ+ are sex offenders for existing in front of children, giving them carte blanche to start Alan Turing the shit out of the entire LGBTQ+ community.
It's a dumb game to play and the Democratic senator should be ashamed for playing it.
The thing these chuckle fucks don't get is that a castrated rapist is still capable of rape.
Weren't like a lot of serial killers in the 70s and 80s doing shit like that cause of sexual frustrations? Wouldn't being castrated basically create more of that?
Aside from a back alley, where do you find a doctor to perform this?
Hey Bill! Where'd did you get them truck nuts!? Those are real big and hairy!