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[–] [email protected] 240 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It is hard to believe this moron has a chance of being president again. We are a doomed country.

[–] [email protected] 111 points 2 months ago (14 children)

Don’t let the media and talking heads convince you of anything.

There are a great majority of people who want nothing to do with Trump, his Russian bootlicking or any of his other xenophobic hate.

Just vote.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago (3 children)

But the system is rigged so that a relatively small minority of morons can fuck shit up for everybody else. So yeah, guys, vote like your life depends on it because it literally does.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

And those of us who are voting and get elected will, and have been, continue to stop vote rigging, jerrymandering, and voter intimidation.

Voting doesn’t end at the end of the presidential election. It involves your local elections too. Especially anything to do with your local educational system.

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[–] nao 29 points 2 months ago

It was hard to believe the last time…

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know.

I'm perplexed honestly.

I live in italy and here too government took a steep turn to the right since last elections.

It is like the most roborantly bamboozling idiocy someone from a stage can scream the more he gets applauded as the folks' hero for speaking their unsung voices.

On the other hand if you try to build an organic and critical dialogue you only get yawned away as utterly boring.

I don't think it is the ones screaming from their stages being the morons, well not the most moron at least, but instead they are those who give their precious votes, hard conquered from their ancestors who gift them with a life in a democracy, to these unambiguously unmistakable frauds, and who hide in the self-obliviousness of the guilty conscience for the vote they have cast their incapability of admitting their own deep existential self-inadequacy.

[–] Zipitydew 13 points 2 months ago

Lots of people are incredibly stupid. Many of those stupid people are also selfish and mean. It will always be easy to appeal to those people by blaming all their problems on others. Until science figures out a way to force on the empathy parts of our brains, we'll go through these cycles of stupid people cheering on fascism.

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[–] [email protected] 135 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Fuck trump and all but he literally did not say he would stop all electric car sales. He said he would stop all sales of Chinese brand cars manufactured in Mexico.

Source: The speech linked by the NYT article that Gizmodo/jalopnik references

https://www.youtube.com/live/XGJwCUHVgc0?si=O_c0epZoYWO1Owf0

The “you’re not going to be able to sell those cars” line is about 32 minutes in.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago

Thank you.

That Gizmodo article is HORRIBLY written up and there never actually mention the quote outside of the blurb beneath the headline so the lack of context had me questioning them. Pretty shitty reporting.

[–] ryathal 42 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Articles like this are exactly how fake news gets traction.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's so damn annoying. I'm not sure how algorithms are supposed to suppress BS alarmist articles without being accused of bias either.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Which is funny since Biden has the exact same position, which is why he expanded on Trump's trade war with China by upping tariffs on EVs to 100%. I highly doubt Biden would let China do the Mexico workaround either, if he can help it.

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Please, free market capitalists: defend your hero.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Gotta imagine there’s a free speech absolutist who doesn’t love this

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 months ago (3 children)

This is just naked corruption, making promises to the oil execs he's been trying to curry favor with, right? Because apart from that - the thing that might put more money in Trump's pocket - I can't fathom what the point would be.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

To "own da libz."

He's pandering to the section of his base who all drive lifted coal rollin' diesel trucks who all know that "everyone knows" electric vehicle owners are all avocado toast eating homosexuals who vote Democrat.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Oh can’t wait to see Elon’s response to that. 🍿

[–] [email protected] 94 points 2 months ago

Elon will donate a few mil to his campaign, and Tesla will end up being the only company allowed to sell them.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

This will eat 80% of Tesla profits, so he will probably ask Tesla to hurry up with the $56 billion he think he is owed.
Tesla stock would plummet even faster than they have recently.

Then he will try to convince Trump to use SpaceX for his Space Force, and have Trump implanted with a chip from Neuralink so he can remote control him. 😋 And then blame any problems on the Jews.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

That tracks.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I can't wait for Trump to be the first RC Human.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Working at the onion must be so. hard. right now

“Donald Trump will kill ‘at least seven prostitutes’ while in office.”

No… how about “Donald Trump sings the entire National Anthem on key.”

“Donald Trump finally unmasked as secret santa in Harlem children’s program.”

Wait… I think I unlocked a secret.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Donald Trump goes home to family, enjoys quiet evening with loved ones"

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

“Donald Trump Spends Six Minutes in Silence Contemplating a Tree”

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago (5 children)

That's a funny way to get the auto companies and unions in the three states Biden really needs to go all in on Biden.

I'm confused. Both of them seem to be trying to lose this election.

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[–] akilou 45 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The party of limiting personal freedom.

If I want to buy an electric car, why shouldn't I be able to?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Because it takes profits from the oil industry, and we can't have that!

/s

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I'm beginning to think Trump is just throwing things against the wall to see what sticks.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I'm beginning to think he doesn't have values of his own and has discovered that he can easily keep dangling simplistic talking points in front of America's most ignorant and most vulnerable segment of simpletons and morons.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

I might take it one step further and say that these aren't Trump's ideas. These are fossil fuel industry talking points that get pumped through a rich network of right wing talk radio dorks and Brietbart style news feeds and Joe Rogan guests.

Trump and his ilk are just the guys who can turn a talking point about "nobody is buying electric cars" into a real policy of "nobody is allowed to buy electric cars from over the border".

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Always has been… 🧑‍🚀🔫👩‍🚀

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago

Oooh... I can just imagine the cognitive dissonance over on twitter reaching critical mass.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A man of "freedom of choice" and "free market" I see.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How very "free market" of him.

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[–] DudeImMacGyver 13 points 2 months ago

*convicted felon Donald Trump

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Donald Trump says random bullshit he cannot deliver on, that will appeal to his most rabid supporters.

The Biden Tariffs have way more impact on total EVs sales than reducing the EV credit to $0. The tariff blocks $6k EVs from enter the US, the credits just knocks $7.5k off a $50k car.

Like I get that us here in the United States are wary of Chinese things, but let's all be honest, American car companies aren't going to produce a sub $20k EV anytime soon. LiFePO₄ batteries have been a thing for some time now, the excuse the batteries are the main cost of the car is faux argument that US makers just aren't ready to stop subsidizing their other vehicle platforms with EV sales.

Trump's arguments won't do shit no matter which side of the aisle you sit. The thing killing wide adoption in the US of EVs is the US EV makers.

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[–] CaptDust 8 points 2 months ago

He's begged the oil industry to come up with a $1b donation for his "campaign", this is the reach around if they make it happen.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

God, now this makes it a difficult one.

On one hand a Trump presidency is awful, on the other hand seeing Elon Musk have a mental breakdown as he can no longer sell Teslas in America is almost worth while

[–] Corkyskog 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Eh, it will never be accomplished anyway. Trump promised so much shit that never happened. Only some of his promises to rich people came true.

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