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This is based on a cool, but ultimately incorrect historical theory called "phantom time." The general premise being that European history (and world history) was mostly fabricated as propaganda by royalty. It wouldn't be so crazy except, a) archeology exist and validates certain medieval records and b) non European Nations exist, and record their own interactions with Western Nations.
Right. And even leaving radiocarbon dating aside, you can't really cheat dendrochronology unless you make a gargantuan effort with the specific point of doing so.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendrochronology
Any piece of wood can potentially be dated if it is large enough. Pieces of wood like roof beams in buildings.
The Gregorian calendar didn’t go into effect until 1582. Because it’s a modification of the Julian calender. Which replaced the Roman calender.
Almost like there’s a continuity or something.
The Gregorian calendar didn’t go into effect until 1582.
And 1583. And 1589. And 1587 and 1610 and 1700. And also 1752, 1873/74, 1916, 1918, 1923, and 1926/27.
Wait until this guy hears that time is just something we made up/invented!
Until we invented it everything was happening at once. It was chaos!
That was back when the world was black and white. I've seen the pictures.
look at the username and this context
We did not invent time. Nor did we make it up.
Correct! It was the bourgeoisie looking for ways to control factory workers
Time is the curvature of space or the 4th dimension or both.
The way humans keep track of future events is indeed made up but is also grounded in celestial movements of the sun moon and earth.
All words are made up
Easy, it's 1715894564 after Jan 1 1970 00:00:00.
no its 1715898281 ffs
Out of curiosity, is there a "time limit" for this epoch value, or can it go on indefinitely?
Sort of. There's one coming up in 2038 where the number overflows a signed 32 bit integer. Anything using 32 bits for timestamps is going to get a wee bit confused.
This should be the last time that happens though as a 64 bit signed int can carry us to something like the year 290 billion
!remindme 290000000000 years
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You count up 1 second for each second from midnight on Jan 1st, 1970. The Unix epoch.
It can go on as long as we go on counting. Interestingly, it does ignore leap seconds.
No friend 7pm the night before. American East Coast in the 1960s.
Guys, I fucked up, its actually 1716002297. Apologies for the inconvenience
it has been approximately 12000 years since our ancestors constructed what are now the ruins at Gobekli Tepe. But saying it's been exactly 12,000 years would be silly, so let's toss in some variation and call it the present 12,024 years since then. I like this because it puts the history we presently call "ancient" into perspective. By this measure, the bronze age began around the year 6,800 and its collapse happened around the year 8,800. Two thousand years, our species toiled at working bronze. Yes, a lot of explosive progress (some of it literal) happened in the 11,900s, but it took us over eleven thousand years to get there in the first place. We're really not so far from the 11,500s when we were just getting used to connecting the whole globe with transoceanic trade. It seriously stunts our achievements to write off everything that happened prior to year 10,000 as if it were irrelevant.
And humanity existed for hundreds of thousands of years before that.
oh yes! Anatomically modern humans have been around for like 200,000 years before we developed agriculture and started to develop permanent settlements!
I think the number is 600,000 years for how long we've been around in total.
I completely agree with you. If you actually think about it seriously our history as a species is amazing. Things like the discovery channel with the "Aliens" guy piss me off. It's a fundamental disrespect of what real people have done, and what we're capable of.
The long ramp up to what we have right now today is fascinating. No other animal has ever done anything like we have. From loin clothes to fire to farming is mind blowing. Hell, just one of those things is already way past every other species to ever live.
They kinda seem like jerks. My 𝘏𝘰𝘮𝘰s tended to get along best in groups of a dozen dozen, enjoyed gossip, killing Neanderthals, and their fave: magical thinking.
Why Gobekli Tepe? Karahan Tepe is likely significantly older. We may find something older still.
Just the fact that we've pushed back the point where early hominids were controlling and cooking with fire to some 2 million years in the past. Burying dead to 250,000 years.
I'm totally willing to believe there are much earlier signs of what we would call complex societal behavior like those temples and the infrastructure required to build them. We're just going to get better at detecting and dating it as time passes imo.
It's sad that we will likely never know why they did any of this stuff. It's probably all very familiar to us even now, but wouldn't it be fascinating to know how far back our "modern" behaviors go.
Kurzgesagt Time! They have a 12,024 Human Era calendar (but it's sold out :/ ). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czgOWmtGVGs
I enjoyed reading about this, thank you!
https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20210815-an-immense-mystery-older-than-stonehenge
The reality is that it doesn’t matter. It’s all arbitrary.
What matters is we all agree on it.
But we don't all agree. I can think 3 different year systems that are still used today in other countries
My son struggled with the similar concept of daylight saving time this year.
He's 6 though - I'm sure he'll grow out it by the time he's on Twitter.
If he doesn't... You know what to do.
Send him forward in time to when there is no Twitter, only X.
It's amazing how many people don't know what time is and think it's something that's kept track of on a man made calendar.
I could actually get behind this conspiracy theory if it wasn't so easily debunked. Think about it, wouldn't it be beneficial for some rulers to pretend that the glorious battle victory everyone has heard about happened relatively recently, as opposed to centuries ago?
There’s also a fun “lost time” theory were they rearrange Egyptian history to better align with the Bible. Interesting read on Wikipedia until you get to the debunking.
It's only a surprising observation if you never thought about the not so distant past, when each town had its own time. Even now, if you spend a week or a month hiking or living off the grid out in nature, although your watch or cell phone might have a clock on it, you learn quite soon that what really matters is when the sun goes up and goes down.
I thought the calendar was based on the event when Xenu exploded all of the body thetans on volcanoes with hydrogen bombs.
Jimmy is insane. Still waiting for his video on semen retention though.
TIL I don't have to involve religion with timekepeping. How have I not heard BCE and CE before (or more probably how did I forget hearing it)?
You have to study history at a university to see it for the most part. I’m talking into classes here. It’s probably getting out there now though.
I'm lost in walart
Sniff for the smell of the subway. That is near the entrance and your freedom.
I'm gonna take a migraine.