Anyone using Ubuntu is one person less using windows. I call that a win. Everyone has to start somewhere!
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Fuckin love ubuntu despite knowing it's a cold take. How about that dogshit?
Oh snap
Im of the opinion that the distro is far less important than the Desktop Environment. Ubuntu only really "feels like Ubuntu" because of GNOME.
Most of what differentiates a distro from another is one of:
- package manager
- default packages/configurations (including the desktop environment)
- init system
The rest wellβ¦ itβs Linux.
Ha same here. I'd try something else but I really just cba to start again on my server and desktop.
Arch Linux user here to say... Ubuntu's fine, man. Love all the derivatives that can take advantage of the core Ubuntu system (e.g., Mint, which I've installed for family members).
I love Arch. I use it all the time. I will not inflict it on any family members.
And for those of us that love Arch but don't have time for it, EndeavourOS.
the problem with ubuntu is canonical, it's a shame it's got the reputation as "the third OS" when it's basically the only distro that's trying to replicate the walled gardens of microsoft and apple.
Yeah, well said.
It's one rich dudes toy is how I see it. It's a good distro but once I tried to uninstall some things and it wouldn't let me and so that was the end of it for me at home. I use the server version at work for one machine.
Jesus Christ this thread is full of people who don't realize they're the judging hipster in the post.
Ubuntu isn't the entry level distro that you move on from once you've gotten your feet wet, and your not very subtle pats on your own backs for using something different aren't earned.
Does it do everything the user needs from it? If so, don't tell them that they need to "graduate" to a "better" flavor.
For real I started on Ubuntu and nearly a decade later I still would be on Ubuntu if it wasn't for their migration to snaps with the proprietary back end.
for real. my uncle has been programmer his whole life and he was always the most linux guy I've known. I have never seen him use any other os. and yet he uses ubuntu. his own words are thar he doesn't care about all the bells and whistles that come trough distros like arch or gentoo. ubuntu works well enough for him and it's what he is used to, so he uses that.
using ubuntu defiently does not mean you're a noob or non-techy linux user. personally I wouldn't touch it again but the linux culture about arch being superior and others being for noobs is ridiculous
The neck beards that judge someone's distro choice without knowing their use cases don't represent the Linux community. Just use the best tool for the job
I'm not convinced Ubuntu is a good tool for many jobs.
To be fair, most tools are pretty bad at all other jobs besides the one it was made for. Same goes for an OS. If Ubuntu is made to off ramp people more comfortable with Windows, then that's just a fine purpose for aln OS.
Only linux newbies and weirdos hate on Ubuntu. It's a good all around operating system. Not the best choice and Canonical fails a lot but it's still a net good.
Absolutely loving the replies to this.
This is how the extended Linux community wins for me.
Sure we talk shit for fun. The Arch BTW stuff, the Gentoo shade and Slackware side-eye. But its all in jest, ultimately.
Well done.
Correct me if I'm wrong,
but I have been disliking Ubuntu because they use:
- Proprietary pieces in their code
- Telemetry (spyware)
- Snap packages by default
And thats fine. You are entitled to your opinion, and your opinion is based on actual things.
As long as you don't denigrate and insult others for using it, or try to pretend you're the superior linux hackerman for not using it, You're all good.
I have used Ubuntu for years. I'm not a noob by any means, and would consider myself more advanced than most users. I used to love tinkering, but once I had a set of scripts built that set everything up just the way I like it on a new install, the need to tinker faded.
I have recently switched to Debian due to bloat and snaps, but I won't ever judge an Ubuntu user.
I'm rly happy when ppl switch to a GNU/Linux OS, tho I would never recommend Ubuntu to anyone (anymore), since Linux Mint has a much saner no bs team that is not fucked over by a corporate
Or just plain Debian, which is wonderful as well
Use whatever works for you. Don't take selection advice from people that make their operating system of choice a crusade and identity.
No, Apple gives off hipster vibes to the average PC user. Apple products are basically jewelry, you choose Apple products largely to be seen with them, so that when you slide that phone out of your pocket there's that Apple logo on it. So that your bubble is blue in iMessage. That's hipster shit.
The average PC user has never seen Linux running on a PC and doesn't understand what a "distro" is at all. Ubuntu and its default Gnome DE isn't as easily mistaken for Windows as KDE or Cinnamon is, so this one might spark the conversation a little faster, and "average" Windows users tend to compare Linux users of all stripes to vegans.
WIthin the Linux community, Until maybe 5 years ago Ubuntu had the "beginner OS" stank to it. "Start here until you're ready to edit xorg.conf like a real man." Canonical has been shifting away from "Linux for the masses" and more toward "Leveraging synergies" to the point that I straight-up recommend against Ubuntu for daily use as their Snap ecosystem has a lot of disadvantages for desktop users especially gamers. To me, Ubuntu is a radial arm saw, the wonder do-all death trap grampa won't shut up about that no one makes anymore. In the modern day, best practice is to forget they exist.
Ubuntu was my first Linux desktop distro and Iβve been using it for 4ish years. I really liked it but I no longer feel like I can trust canonical after the whole βsecretly install Firefox snap when installed with apt cliβ thing. It wouldnβt have even been a big deal if they just said it was only available as a snap but the execution pissed me off to the point of switching
I remember back in the day when Slackware was both the elitist and the loser's Linux distro at the same time.
Show Ubuntu some love. Ubuntu is the entry distro of many us. But you move on once you grow up a little.
Why would Ubuntu give off hipster vibes? It's literally the default standard for Linux.
Because not using windows or MacOS makes you a hipster in the eyes of many people
Ubuntu is a gateway drug. Its lickable Fisher-Price interface is easy to use for basic tasks like web browsing, email and so on, and the always present sidebar provides reassurance. Once users start chafing against the limitations, they can move to forks like Xubuntu, or all the way to Debian itself, or if they really want to get their hands dirty, Arch.
Or Ubuntu could perform every task they need it to and never switch to anything else.
Exactly.
Ubuntu is wide spread, well documented, and was the recommended distro for a lot of things (like steam) for a long time.
I used Ubuntu for a long time, I didnt grow up and move on or any hipster shit like that.. I simply moved to Nobara because it offered a better out of the box experience for me, a gamer, due entirely to all the gaming related stuff being installed as default, at start.
This weird need to feel superior to others over distro choice is weird, and kinda pathetic. Its just stupid and pathetic to be insulting and denigrating others over their distro choice.. And says a lot more about the pathetic nature of the person saying it, then anything they could type.
and yes, I said pathetic 3 times, because thats just how pathetic it is to be like that.
I use Ubuntu for all my home lab servers unless there's a specific requirement for something else.
I never install the desktop version except when experimenting, and in those cases, I'd be just as happy using any other distro, since those use cases are fairly limited both in scope and duration.
Ubuntu is just the os I put on virtual servers.
Judge me if you want. I really could not possibly care less. I also use Windows on my daily driver desktop.
I'm considering going canonical MAAS for a new deployment of open stack servers which will be replacing my current hypervisors (which are VMware), pushing Ubuntu and OpenStack onto systems for use and probably also using MAAS to roll out future virtual machines in OpenStack.
I like the canonical Kool aid.
I use Ubuntu because I have just 2 brain cell
I use Ubuntu because if we want any chance of proper mainstream usability of Linux, this distro is the best bet. And to help my family with it, I need it ready myself.
I use mint because I only have one. It's simple and does everything I want. I don't need complicated linux, I need a web browser and a NAS VLC terminal.
Everyone that I know that uses linux is using Ubuntu. I'm the wierdo using Debian
not even a hot take. the only people who seem to hate ubuntu are the hardcore linux nerds who like custom building kernels and shit- which, honestly, more power to them, but i have the big dumb and want click button make work.
Admittedly I don't really like how they're handling packages these days, it's a bit messy with the whole snap vs flatpak vs apt thing, but whatever.
I currently run ubuntu alongside my windows install just because I needed linux to experiment with AI models, and the only AMD drivers that work for ROCm support are Ubuntu only (packages are permanently dependency-broken on other distros).