By golly, you do that just 21 more times and you are going to regret it, mister.
this post was submitted on 06 May 2024
316 points (98.5% liked)
politics
19156 readers
2585 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
And you get a free sub for filling the punch card!
It all makes sense when you realize that when they said "democracy" and "justice system", what they really meant was "corporate dictatorship".
"It's a big club, and YOU ain't in it!"
Fucking do it already
Raffensberger and Vindman and all them already made their choice, they didn’t try to pussyfoot around it or split the difference or give him the benefit of the doubt
You WILL be thrown in prison, or worse, if he gets a second term. All this careful procedural business as usual is doing is making it more likely that that’ll happen.
You’re on a boat, and there’s a guy with a handgun who keeps getting drunk and taking potshots at the captain and putting holes in the hull. And he keeps saying things need to change and he needs to be the captain. Stop hiding the liquor and hoping it’ll all blow over. Stop saying if this keeps on this way someone should do something.
It is YOU, your honor
YOU should be doing something
For real, he’s gonna try to find a way to straight up execute any and all judges who have ever decided anything against him if he gets reelected. Failing that, he’ll certainly try to do something fucky and illegally imprison them. I am not joking.
Merchan said he doesn’t want to jail Trump, but “at the end of the day I have a job to do, and part of that job is to protect the dignity of the justice system,” and the violations “constitute a direct attack on the rule of law.”
So you know you need to do it and you're not doing it. Okay then.
He knows what the fuck his job is, it's to direct violence at the poor in order to protect and mollify the rich. The fact is the whole system is set up to prevent this embarrassment and Trump has been too pig-headed and boorish to take advantage of the multiple easy ways out that they've been offering him. He was supposed to do what the rest of them do, quietly agree to a generous plea deal to make the whole thing disappear so that no judge has to be broadcast on live TV showing such blatant favoritism to the aristocratic class.
Hurr durr 11d chess
Anyones brow get furrowed yet?
Thats how you know theyre serious.
Susan Collins has assured me that Trump learned his lesson. Everything should be fine for.
I hope Susan Collins bangs her toe really fucking hard into a table.
Yeah, her cameltoe.
wait wasn't he just fined and threatened with jail time 9 other times?
Show of hands - who here thinks they can violate a judge's orders 10 distinct times, including at least one time after already having been fined for past violations and threatened with jail time for further violations, and then sleep in their own bed that night? The rich break the law 10 times and are told 10 separate times that if they do it again there will be consequences, the poor are held in solitary confinement for years without trial until the prosecution admits that they never had any evidence and then gives up.
This is the second time he was found in contempt.
The first time was on 9 counts. On the second time he was threatened with jail.
I believe that he committed contempt in two separate tranches and at the second series he still hadn't been warned of jail time at that point. He has now been so warned.
As to why the judge hasn't yet thrown his arse in jail - Trump always appeals, nowadays, always, as a delay strategy. The judge wants to limit every appeal element so as to keep things moving. Some of Trump's appeals have only lasted 20 minutes because of this.
Donald Trump was held in contempt of court Tuesday and fined $9,000 for repeatedly violating a gag order that barred him from making public statements about witnesses, jurors and some others connected to his New York hush money case. And if he does it again, the judge warned, he could be jailed.
https://www.wbaltv.com/article/donald-trump-hush-money-testimony/60644438 - last updated 04/30/2024
The judge threatened jail with the first 9 counts as well, and then Trump just kept breaking the law and the corrupt coward judge backed down because Trump and his ilk are not beholden to the law.
The second contempt hearing was over statements that were made between the first contempt hearing and the judge's initial ruling--i.e. they were statements made before he was initially sanctioned. The judge hasn't backed down, he's just not jailing him until he makes a statement made after his warning.
Jail? I'm sorry, best we can do is stern warnings.
Shit or get off the pot, your honor.
There's no justice quite like rich white asshole justice.
Holy fuck just shit or get off the pot. Remand him to custody, or just admit you can’t do shit.
Anyone feel like a $1000 fine for Trump is basically just equivalent to fining him a buck for a swear jar?
Stop sparing the rod and spoiling this child further.
I love the fact that Trump has been found in contempt of court for violating a gag order and making threats to participants in the trial ten fucking times, and the most he received is a stern look from mommy as she says "Don't make me count to three.....", knowing full well he'll never go past 2 and a half.
And they're even talking about putting him in jail for a few minutes or a few hours at a time and hoping he "learns". The man is threatening violence against people and the most this court system seems to be willing to give him isn't a "time-out". The most they're willing to do is the threat of a time out.
Seriously. Ten fucking times and they're talking about maybe possibly throwing him in jail for a few minutes. If anyone needs proof of our two-tier justice system, here you go. I can go on youtube right now and find literally thousands of court videos showing people being held in contempt of court and serving days in jail for wearing inappropriate clothing, grunting at the wrong time, and not saying "your honor". But this man literally stands right in front of the courthouse and violates the gag order on the daily, and the most he's gonna get is a glorified tour of a holding cell if he violated the order eleventy billion more times.
Even if he is found guilty, do you think this sack of putty is going to be willing to throw Trump in jail? Because I've seen no evidence yet that this judge, or any other one, has the stones to do it.
Give him orange jumpsuit trash pickup detail. Jail's too good for him.
Trash pickup is better than sitting on a cell.
Not for his fundraising ambitions, though.
People are saying that the judge is attempting to limit his ability to cry fowl, mistrial, grounds for appeal. In that light, I can understand the huge sway granted. It still pisses me off.
No to all of this.
No matter what happens, he's going to cry foul. He's going to appeal literally every aspect of this right up to the Supreme Court. He's going to demand mistrials, re-trials, and dismissals at every level. Unless he's found not guilty on all 34 counts, this is going to happen no matter what. Jack Smith is going to be accused of being in cahoots with Genghis Kahn and only prosecuting Trump for the glory of China. Every member of the jury are going to have Trump Derangement Syndrome and are going to be painted as extremists who have been out to get Trump from birth. Every single ruling against every single piece of evidence is going to be appealed. This is Trump. This is what he does.
Giving him huge sway out of fear that he's going to do what he's going to do anyway just plays right into Trump's hands and only becomes more evidence that there are two tiers of justice in this country, and those at the top get more leeway because either they're afraid of some form of retribution or because they just don't want to bother dealing with it.
The man is threatening literally every person involved in this case on a daily basis, and has already caused at least one person to exit the case out of fear and credible threats. He should have been thrown in jail the minute that juror was excused.
foul
Ha. I'm usually a stickler for catching writing mistakes. Except when I'm not. Thanks!