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You actually have to be a dumb cunt to hate Skyler, I remember hating her when I first watched BB, because she was the bitch wife messimg with badass Walter, now that I rewatched it as I am older and damn, walter is a proper cunt the whole way through and she is trying navigate a really fucked up situation, I just felt bad for her the whole way through
Nah man, I hated Walter from the get go and still hated Skylar. Basically the only characters I liked ended up in Better Call Saul, outside of Hank and Jessie
Hank was a douchebag, and it took Jesse a good while to become somewhat of a decent person.
Yeah, she fucks up but like damn give a girl a break her husband got cancer and keeps lying about where he is and what heβs doing.
Her husband becomes a psychopathic mass murderer and drug manufacturer
Yeah, but most people start hating her in season 1/2 where sheβs kinda a bitch or when she cheats.
Kai Winn
And Nurse Ratched! Louise Fletcher is the best at being the worst.
I was gonna mention this character as well! I was really surprised that Louise Fletcher wasn't in the photo.
I never hated Skylar, but I get why she's in the meme. Anna Gunn does severe so damn well.
I also don't mind Dolores Umbridge's actress because I hated her in the book far, far more.
Jack Gleeson should come back and give it a shot again. And I can't tell who the other one is.
Jeffery Dean Morgan as Neegan (sp) in The Walking Dead.
I think his role as the Comedian in The Watchmen was more hatable, at least the character was pretty awful in a grounded way instead of the silly over the top Walking Dead kind of way.
That character was so well done (The Comedian, I don't remember Walking Dead well enough). He's more tragedy than contemptable depending on your sympathies, but that was kinda' the point. It's almost the point of ANY "good" bad character. Give them motivations that are understandable by non-psychos, just make the character make poor (poor, not stupid) or mean decisions.
... and his acting helped round out the character instead of flatten. He genuinely seemed like a good guy that got insanely jaded and went off the deep instead of just a bad guy.
Skylar wasn't even evil or anything. Just a normal good person. Walter was an absolute piece of shit who chose to reject legitimate help and support, and instead do illegal villainous things.
But that's also the mark of a well written show, when you're compelled to take the side of a man making the wrong choices, to walk that line with him. And then be yanked the fuck back by the writers at the end.
"I did it for me. I did it because I was good at it."
Masterful.
The more I hate a character, the more respect and admiration I have for the actor/actress. I don't know what the fuck is wrong with people who can't differentiate between fiction and reality.
Look around. People are idiots.
People that hate Skylar are idiots. If they hate the actress, they're even worse.
Being hateable doesn't mean you're wrong. Obviously Skyler was acting in her family's best interest and walt was a psycho POS but she played such an unlikeable character.
There are plenty of likeable "evil" characters and plenty of unlikeable "good" ones. People act like if you hate Skyler you somehow don't get the show, but no, I understand her character just fine, it's just that she's insufferable about everything.
Regardless, hating the actress for the character is smooth brain shit
I empathized with Skyler more than anyone else on the show. I was constantly asking myself what I would do in her position.
I feel like if someone found her insufferable, it was because you either agreed with Walt or were pissed that her character prevented shenanigans you wanted to see. I'll admit I fell into the latter category in the first season or two but by the end, she rocked. If neither describes you, feel free to explain why you thought she was insufferable
I think she was one of the most realistic and best-written characters in the entire show. I also don't think she got/gets nearly enough hate to even be a part this meme
Nah, that lacks nuance. People who hate Skylar for just crushing Walt's vibe or being unlikeable are idiots. I have watched the show in its entirety three times, and my opinion on all the characters has evolved - my opinion of Skylar is more negative than it used to be. If you believe that Skylar is just a victim, you are denying her character agency. She is highly intelligent and capable and simultaneously intends to benefit from Walt's actions while being arrogant enough to assume she can control the situation, outsmart the authorities, and get off scott free - much like another main character.
Skylar made certain choices to support Walt because she thought it was in the family's best interest (including hers), then she later reneged on those choices when things didn't turn out like she expected and ultimately forced Walt to take the blame for choices she willingly made. Skylar is as relatable and flawed as she is unlikeable: just like we would in her circumstances, she lacks the courage to do what is necessary to stop Walt and protect herself and her family.
She did not have to support Walt in the first place but instead did so even when given many opportunities to get out of the situation with minimal consequences. She may have paid a price for doing so as time went on (asset seizure if she went to the cops, social ostracization, her kids disliking her, etc), but the consequences were initially fairly trivial - divorce from a criminal who was putting the family at risk, embarrassment, harming her relationship with Marie, etc. And, while Walt obviously was callous/cruel/self-righteous/arrogant/and even evil, maybe - as was the point of his whole character, Skylar chose to support Walt in his criminal enterprise when she didn't have to - going so far as to come up with money laundering ideas, encouraging him to expand his operations to an extent early on, helping him come up with cover stories, etc. and only later turning on Walt when she felt like she could no longer benefit from assisting him and would benefit more by betraying him - going so far as to physically assault him with a knife and threaten to kill him, lying to the police about his treatment of the family and also giving them his location which put his life in further jeopardy while he was trying to get the family to safety since he was being pursued.
In fact, Walt saw a way to use Skylar's betrayal to protect the family and takes the blame for Skylar's actions, goes along with Skylar's lie that he was physically assaulting the family, threatening them with death if they didn't comply, etc. all to take the heat off Skylar for the sake of the family. That doesn't mean Walt is a saint. He should've stopped long before that and did many things that put the family in danger. But, his taking the blame for Skylar's part in the operation shows that she did have a real part in it - he had to lie to say he forced her to be a part of the operation to put her in a better light and get her off the hook.
When Skylar initially began to support Walt, she was not under significant duress. There was a significant degree of duress later, with Walt acting intimidating, Meth Damon coming to "talk" to her at her house, etc. But you could say that just like the situation got away from Walt and was out of control, the same happened for Skylar. She thought she could control things and continue to benefit from Walt's operation to provide a better life for the family. Then, when things got out of control, she flipped on Walt. The difference between Walt and Skylar is that Skylar got dragged into the situation by Walt, but remember, he really did try to keep her out of it. At a certain point, she chose to insert herself into it rather than leave the situation.
People dislike Skylar because she lacks courage. Courage to get out early when she had the chance, courage to report Walt to the police despite having many allies to help her and numerous opportunities, courage to stick to her moral convictions about what Walt was doing, courage to ensure her family's safety before doing things that jeopardized her chances of full custody, courage to tell her kids the truth about Walt, or alternatively courage to stick with Walt since she had committed to doing so and was (at first) a willing accomplice. But, most importantly, the courage to face the consequences for her part in the whole ordeal - except at the very end when it was already too late. She lacks courage and is self-interested, wanting to benefit from Walt's dealings while bearing none of the risk or responsibility for her part in them.
David Tennant's performance in Jessica Jones stuck with me for a while. It took a while for me not to assume his characters would be evil after that, and I was already familiar with his run as The Doctor.
his role in JJ made me realize what a damn good actor he is. I love his evil roles! he played petulant psychopath so well.
Louise Fletcher is the Goat of making you utterly despise them.
Nurse Ratched.
Kai Winn..
I just ruined a whole bunch of people's days with 2 names.
It's such a trash take to put Skylar on this list. She reacted reasonably, understandably and went way above what could be expected to protect Walter.
To hate Sky is to misunderstand the entries show.
Misunderstanding an entire show seems to be more common than understanding it.
The girl who tried to seduce Jim on The Office has said she gets a ton of hate IRL.
The dude who played Anakin in The Phantom Menace
Jake Lloyd. His performance just makes me hate George Lucas more.
I do let that hate flow through me!
We weren't supposed to hate Anakin, though.
Let the hate flow through you
Skylar being in this group is low-key insane. She cheated on her narcissistic drug dealing murderous husband. The rest of these folks are murderers or magical torturers.
Michael McKean as Chuck McGill.
He is such an awesome actor and generally a truly extremely sweet human, but he played his character so well I cannot cringe whenever I see him. Really well played!
I hated Laura Linney for her portrayal of Meryl in The Truman Show
People need to get some emotional intelligence.
Remember Nelly? Allison Arngrim
Cersei Lannister - Lena Heady must get just as much of random hate from people as Jack Gleeson does.
Vincent D'Onofrio probably gets a lot of weird interactions from people that saw him in daredevil or Full metal jacket too.
There's an old story about Margaret Hamilton (the actress who played the wicked witch in the Wizard of Oz) being slapped by a woman on the street for "being mean to Dorothy". Don't know if it's true though
Every one of these actors deserves awards. I would shake any of their hands and thank them.
I hate the characters, (except Skylar, she's just a flawed person dealing with fucked up shit.)
I deeply appreciate the skill the actors used to bring up such strong emotions within me.
Hart Bochner because of his character Harry Ellis in DIE HARD.
Paul Reiser because of his character Carter Burke in ALIENS.
Obnoxious douchebag characters were definitely a thing in 80s #movies.