This also includes the provision for TikTok's owners to either divest to a US-based entity or be banned from the states. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.
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Biden said he’s going to sign it tomorrow. Then Bytedance has 9 months to fight it in court, sell it and or shut it down.
National security legislation tends to get upheld in courts, and TikTok has a $50b valuation, so my money is on them selling.
China says they aren't allowed to sell the algorithm. How much is it worth without that?
The algorithm is the problem and non-Chinese tik tok doesn’t use the same algorithm as the one it uses at home. Which is part of the problem and one of the reasons why it’s being targeted.
Oracle has access to the source code and does all storage. How can an algorithm be illegal?
My hunch is Zuck is salivating over divestment and was lobbying for this. However I think bytedance won’t divest since the US market only represents under 5% of the user base.
This is gonna bite Biden in the ass hard with the younger generations if he signs it and then they won’t vote (granted a lot don’t vote anyway). They’ll see it as an out of touch old government trying to silence our voices and give money away for war rather than help people. Will definitely be interesting to see how it unfolds.
As you said, the younguns don't vote, and the ones dumb enough not to vote for Biden over this weren't going to vote for him anyway. The sooner I never hear the phrase "on TikTok" again, the better.
People like Zuck are the reason I think you over estimate the backlash. Gen Z is millennial+ with more brains and fewer of our shortcomings. I’m certain I saw an article, on lemmy, showing younger generations being jaded on social media in general and aware of its many, many negative impacts.
That they let zuck get away with all his toxic, deadly crap, including election interference, but worry about tiktok says they're really just protecting the kleptocracy. I'm not fond of tiktok but zuck/all things meta are just as toxic and dangerous.
Damn. While I don’t mind TikTok going bye bye. I don’t like mixing it with other bills.
Mixing support to Israel with the same bill as support to ukraine was a nasty move too. Is it just to save time? It makes no sense that they would do that
It's because the Republicans wouldn't let a bill, that only supports Ukraine, pass. So this was a compromise.
So it is a if we do this, you have to do that, kind of thing?
The (Rep.) speaker Mike Johnson went against the MAGAs and worked together with the Democrats to get it passed.
But I doubt they would have gotten enough votes if they didn't bundle it with the aid for Israel and the TikTok ban.
It's done under the guise of saving time, but obviously people group things strategically. "Rubber stamp all of the things from Congress this week... And don't worry about the tiny bill fund a black op that's in there".
But the only time they save is at vote casting and it would take almost no more time to cast a vote on 3 bills than on 1
But didn't they have three separate votes, one on each?
In ~~Congress~~ the House Of Representatives. I don't think the did in the senate.
It's because both of them serve the same US foreign policy goals. The ethics of one over the other don't factor in to it at all.
About damn time
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Wow. Some fascinating numbers in those polls.
You can never underestimate Democrats' ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
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The Senate voted overwhelmingly on Tuesday night to give final approval to a $95.3 billion package of aid to Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan, sending it to President Biden and ending months of uncertainty about whether the United States would continue to back Kyiv in its fight against Russian aggression.
And it capped an extraordinary political saga that raised questions about whether the United States would continue to play a leading role in upholding the international order and projecting its values globally.
“Our allies around the world have been watching Congress for the last six months and wondering the same thing: When it matters most, will America summon the strength to come together, overcome the centrifugal pull of partisanship and meet the magnitude of the moment?” Senator Chuck Schumer, Democrat of New York and the majority leader, said on Tuesday.
In addition to the package of sweeteners, which also includes new rounds of sanctions on Iranian and Russian officials, the House added provisions to direct the president to seek repayment from the Ukrainian government of $10 billion in economic assistance.
In extensive remarks on the Senate floor on Tuesday before the procedural vote, Mr. McConnell cast congressional approval of the aid package as “a test of American resolve, our readiness and our willingness to lead.” He rebuked the naysayers in his party, criticizing those who, he said, would “indulge the fantasy of pulling up a drawbridge.”
Ruslan Stefanchuk, the speaker of the Ukrainian Parliament, posted a photograph on social media of lawmakers holding American flags inside the chamber in Kyiv, in “gratitude to the United States and to every member of the House of Representatives who supported the Ukraine Aid Bill.
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