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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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[–] [email protected] 231 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Reminder that if the media is cool with putting the victim's name all over, then you should be cool with the officer's name all over.

Innocent until proven guilty am I right?

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[–] [email protected] 162 points 7 months ago (20 children)

There are a lot of things I hate about the Bible as an atheist, but one thing I really wish would be implemented is a double measured punishment for positions of authority. Every crime a police officer is found guilty of should be doubled, every time and without exception. They should always be aware of the fact that if they screw up it will be a much bigger deal for them.

What do you expect in DeSatan's state.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 7 months ago

There's a lot of fucking sense in the bible sometimes, in a lot of cases the problem is it's good fucking sense for a tribe of nomadic folk 2500 years ago and then it's been filtered through various cults rewriting and reinterpreting it to suit their needs and viewpoints in the intervening time. The US constitution seems to be on the same sort of track.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Fuck the bible but this is already a thing in the military and it should be a thing in the police too since they are just the occupying military

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

Is that double punishment thing in the bible? I couldn't agree more. It's the most heinous type of crime imo.

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[–] [email protected] 132 points 7 months ago (6 children)

I hope Mr. Riley is found not guilty. And that all three officers who participated in this dangerous fraud are charged and punished appropriately. Mr. Riley deserves compensation for harm done. Tallahassee, you can do better. smh.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Don’t worry. Internal affairs with complete an investigation and find that the officers not only did nothing wrong but are being commended and recommended for promotion!

[–] prettybunnys 46 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Possibly a paid transfer funded by taxpayers.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

How about we compromise. No punishment for the officers, and Mr Riley gets 12 months in jail, but he gets out 3 months early if he admits he was wrong and promised not to sue.

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[–] [email protected] 109 points 7 months ago (10 children)

When you know there will be no consequences, it's easier to be blatant with your corruption. The officer should be fired, arrested for falsifying official documents, and the chief of police should be fired.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago (2 children)

And they should also have to buy Riley a new bottle of cognac. The good stuff, too

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Does no one else find it odd that some Boy Scout badges take more experience than a police badge does?

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Cops: " THE PUBLIC IS SO HOSTILE TO US, WE CANT COMPREHEND WHY THEY HATE US NOBLE SAVIORS OF JUSTICE SO MUCH!"

Also Cops:" I'll just casually destroy this persons property and frame them for a crime to fill my quota, and maybe..if he gets upset over it, I'll have an excuse to murder him! teehee! "

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Huh, so when is Kiersten Oliver's trial?

[–] [email protected] 66 points 7 months ago (1 children)

6 months paid vacation and a transfer to a different district where she commence committing more crimes. Same strategy as the church has with pedophiles. Wonder why this is so rampant when the punishment is a reward.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 7 months ago

Do to the video evidence, I give the jury a 50/50 chance of convicting, far higher than normal!

ACAB

[–] [email protected] 63 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Whatever happened to "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear?"... This happened, fucking corrupt cops

[–] ZombiFrancis 31 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The guy that said that died in the Fuhrerbunker.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 7 months ago (5 children)

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/local/2024/04/04/tallahassee-police-chief-slams-release-of-edited-dui-video-before-trial/73208195007/

Lol Tallahassee PD is going full "shoot the messenger and the messenger's dog" about this. Blithering on about how releasing the video is wrong and now the dude they tried to frame can't get a fair trial because people saw the video, which they were totally gonna show after the trial (trust me, bro. bro you gotta trust me. we can't have people knowing what happened until after he's found guilty and we get to take a bunch of his money by force.) but now everyone is gonna be prejudiced in favor of the defendant which violates his rights and that part of the video where she clearly opens a sealed container, dumps it out, throws it back into the car and then arrests him for open container was taken out of context.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago (4 children)

It hurts to think about how many of these cases they haven't caught.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Straight up psychotic. She should get exactly whatever the max sentencing is that he would have gotten.

[–] RobertoOberto 50 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

More than that.

Law enforcement should be held to a higher standard, and this kind of violation of trust and abuse of power deserves far more than just the punishment for a DUI. The DUI punishment should be stacked on top of whatever she can be charged with for this act itself: false arrest, filing false reports, falsifying evidence, etc. And there should be no allowance for serving those sentences concurrently.

But it probably won't happen.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Knowingly arresting someone based on false evidence should be charged federally as kidnapping.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)
  1. Unless you can prove in a court of law that another cop was told by another court not to dump booze in another victim's car, then arrest them for it, then there is no way we can expect her to have known this was wrong! (Qualified Immunity)

  2. Cops don't have to know the laws they're paid to enforce. (Heien v. North Carolina)

  3. Cops have no legal duty to protect you (DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services, Castle Rock v. Gonzales)

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What pieces of shit, also, she's dumb as fuck for clearly doing something illegal knowing she was wearing a bodycam.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Bodycams should not have a way to turn them off on the field, there's no legitimate reason to, some states even allow it but require a 10 second timer

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, why they don't constantly run but have button as a marker for "I have to take a bathroom break" and not review that footage unless something happened that requires review during that time period is beyond me.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Because those very same cops also have access to evidence. And within days every single female officer's bathroom pics will be in the text messages of every male officer.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What kind of chimpanzee plants evidence, while wearing the camera that will later be used in court?

As a European, I can only apologise. We clearly did not send our brightest and best all those years ago...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

It's almost certainly complacency on her part. She's probably done this an innumerable amount of times. At first I'm sure she was very careful in covering her tracks. She's just gotten away with it so many times now that she stopped caring about whether or not it was easy to catch her in the act. Probably figured there was very little chance anyone would see the footage. ACAB

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