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[–] xmunk 141 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Why would he?

... Because he is now and has always been a racist.

[–] [email protected] 104 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Who would have thought that the son of an emerald mine oligarch from Racism: The Country would be racist?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I always thought that title would go to us (germany) or to the usa, but yeah, i guess it's a thing we all have in common.

20 years ago i was sure we'd live in a post-scarcity federation-of-planets style paradise by now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago
[–] can 28 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] xmunk 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Don't denigrate morons - there are plenty of morons who aren't racist assholes and they manage not to buy into the great replacement theory.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

But this one's a special kind: a narcissistic moron.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

...Donald Trump has entered the chat

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

You can hear the grating whine and those tiny flapping accordion hands from here

[–] [email protected] 134 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The great replacement is real, though. Whites have been replacing the indigenous people for centuries.

[–] can 68 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but that was destiny, we had to manifest it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Something something Jeebus

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Jeebus Crabbs

[–] [email protected] 64 points 8 months ago

This is not a new development. He was raised with this ideals, brought them straight form his home in apartheid.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Immigrants against immigration. The classic American story.

[–] bufordt 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

White Americans, what? Nothing better to do.

Why don't you kick yourself out? You're an immigrant too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

easily the worst song on the album, despite the nice message

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's a pretty hot take, seeing as it's the most successful single off the album in terms of sales and airplay.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

just because it's trendy, doesn't mean it's good

[–] [email protected] 57 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Whites are being replaced in America. Thing is, there's no conspiracy, it's simply history unfolding. (It's always been like this, poorer nations leak into more affluent populations. Because why wouldn't they?!)

What we should ask these people is simple, "OK. Whites are going to be a minority sometime in the next couple of decades. Why is that a problem?"

So why aren't these people confronted with that simple question? Why can't journalists nail them to the fucking wall when it's so easy?!

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Exactly this.

You can’t sit there and vacuum money out of a country via decades and centuries of the virtual theft of natural resources and labor, and then not expect the people living there to go to where their money went.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago

That’s exactly my thought whenever I hear a British person complain about Caribbean people or a French person about Algerians. What did you expect? This is a direct consequence of colonialism and it’s much less disruptive than you deserve, just calm the fuck down

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"In future, everyone's going to be beige. "

- Russell Peters

[–] [email protected] 48 points 8 months ago

He's a South African Apartheid guy. No suprise here.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the old Jewish plot to replace white people with that famous ally of the Jews: Muslims.

They're super well known for getting on together.

Makes sense really.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Fun fact: they are. Or were until Zionism started to take off ~150 years ago.

But the 1000 years before that there were few conflicts for Jews in Arab countries while European Jews kept getting pogromed.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'd like to replace Elon Musk with a human.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's always projection with these people - or whatever they are - so I guess they do want to replace us with lizards.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

To make it not a joke, they legitimately want to replace us with robots.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I think they should hurry the fuck up (with robots and "AI" workers). Do it, cowards. Nuke the job market. Mass unemployment. (UBI to the rescue? GOP insanity will never allow it.) Kick off the revolution. The hunt for their bunkers, maybe something a bit different from guillotines this time.

Wait... we'll just get a bunch of fake populist cults and militias, won't we. Or something much dumber.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago

What an idiot.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

Okay closet Xitters. Out of the pool. Time’s up.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

God I wish the great replacement was real so we wouldn't have to deal with this bitching

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If he believes that then he should tell red states to stop bussing migrants to blue states. You’re basically giving votes away.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

He's right, he should leave and go back home!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


For months, Elon Musk has been dropping decidedly unsubtle hints that he believes in the great replacement, a conspiracy theory that liberal elites are “importing” immigrants into the United States, Europe, and Australia to wage political and biological warfare against white people.

In a contentious interview that aired last week with Don Lemon, Musk said he doesn’t “subscribe to that” before detailing what he does believe — which is effectively still great replacement theory.

Though it’s worth explaining how all of this works to understand how nonsensical Musk’s beliefs are, the facts don’t really matter to people who are convinced that the great replacement is actually happening.

The real die-hards don’t think it’s a scheme to create a permanent Democratic majority; they think it’s a plot to ethnically replace white Americans.

That’s why tiki torch-wielding neo-Nazis chanted “Jews will not replace us” in Charlottesville, Virginia in 2016 and why a mass shooter killed 11 people at a synagogue in Pittsburgh a year later.

Musk is trying to have it both ways: he wants to send obvious great replacement dogwhistles, but, lest it scare advertisers away, he doesn’t want anyone to accuse him of wholeheartedly believing in what he’s saying.


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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

While I don't disagree with the premise of this article, it does a piss poor job at rebuttal. It tries to explain that migrants and asylum seekers won't get to vote in this next election, don't draw SS/Medicare benefits today, and anyway the census is only every ten years, etc. But the "great replacement" stuff is about fears about changing the population over the long term, so this kind of counterargument either falls flat or will be interpreted as gaslighting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Did you ... stop reading?

The real die-hards don’t think it’s a scheme to create a permanent Democratic majority; they think it’s a plot to ethnically replace white Americans. At its core, the great replacement is about demographics, not democracy.

The article doesn't try to rebut this because of the staggering number of premises you need to accept before you can even reach such a conclusion. It's really not worth unpacking here.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I disagree. That is precisely the thing that needs to be unpacked and rebutted, because it's the actual thing these people are worried about. Not the financial sustainability of Social Security, or whatever.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Wasn’t that the whole second half of the article?

Though it’s worth explaining how all of this works to understand how nonsensical Musk’s beliefs are, the facts don’t really matter to people who are convinced that the great replacement is actually happening. The real die-hards don’t think it’s a scheme to create a permanent Democratic majority; they think it’s a plot to ethnically replace white Americans. At its core, the great replacement is about demographics, not democracy.

They go into further details after that.

Edit: Second half may have been generous. It’s the last few paragraphs though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

It's why he has to have so many children.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Listening to Seth Rogan talk about 'eat the rich' shows we have, and always have, penetrated their circles.

Elon thinks he's clever so he's going for, "sow division." Real original mr cybersex truck.