The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
An undercover officer had arranged to meet Edelmann in the 7-Eleven parking lot on South Maryland Avenue at 7:40 p.m. and purchase two chocolate bars infused with psychedelic mushrooms
So.. that's what your police $$$ is going towards?
Setting up sting operations over some mushroom chocolate bars?
Not at all! Most of it goes to excessive force payoffs. And buying surplus military equipment like tanks.
Don't forget trips to Israel to train with the IDF.
Hey, if you want to kill the most civilians for the lowest cost, you gotta train with the best!
Even worse is the prostitute stings they proudly show on COPS. They pretend to be John's and make agreed deals with consenting adults and then say 'haha we're actually the police, not some guy who wanted to fuck you and you're under arrest for merely agreeing to have sex for money'.
Like what an absolute fucking waste of time, money and people's lives.
I was wondering about that camera
They stopped $1 Trillion of chocolate bars in this single bust!
Don't forget the street value of the drug paraphernalia (sandwich bag)
As always, ACAB.
And RIP to Andrew Edelmann. He didn't deserve to murdered by a cop.
The 22 y/o wasn't killed, "over 2 magic mushroom chocolate bars", he was killed because he accelerated his vehicle in an attempt to flee, and came somewhat close to hitting the officer.
However, before the victim accelerated, the officer who shot the young man jumped out of the passenger door of an unmarked police truck and drew his weapon, no audio in the video.
There's a very real chance the victim did not know he was a cop, and panicked. He should be excused of that, had he lived.
The officer fucked up hard, jumping out an unmarked vehicle with no emergency lights, waving a gun around?
Fuck, I'd run over anyone who does that to me, and I think most would do similar.
Then also not practicing restraint in firing his weapon after clearly no more danger existed once the car passed him, guy's a fucking clown.
The only reason the second police vehicle (which showed up from behind just as the victim accelerated) was even hit at all is because the victim had been shot and couldn't steer the vehicle.
The cop should be charged with second degree, or at minimum some kind of reckless endangerment resulting in death, and fired.
"over 2 magic mushroom chocolate bars" in the sense that that's what was at stake, that was the reason for the whole thing. "used as a function word to indicate the object of an ... activity" to quote Miriam Webster.
You describe quite well how the officers' plans and actions made this outcome more likely. And how these failures put them in a position to kill a kid they were only there to bust for 2 shroom bars anyway.
Killed someone over a god damn candy bar.
Filled with the devils fungus, I’ll have you know!
We’ve investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing.
Also we found those tasty chocolate bars and some money
Wait so they opened fire for him trying to excape???
Jesus fuck.
Was the chocolate bar shaped like a gun? No?
Also, isn't homicide a crime?
They're coming right for us! Kill em Ned!
They proudly never thought satire about justifying hunting would be a valid policing strategy.
Because simply jumping out of the way and performing a pesky chase is too hard.
Never run from cops. You'll just die tired.
Was it an obvious cop?
Some unmarked truck shows up, blocks you, and dude jumps out with gun in hand?
Fleeing with your vehicle seems pretty on par for most people's reaction.
Do cops like him get security guards after murdering someone?
Magic?