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Context: I sometimes hear the argument that god explicitly told Adam and Eve not to eat the fruit, the same way a parent tells its child not to stick things or touch electrical outlets. So god forcing the two of them to have children and dooming every human ever since is perfectly justified.
The free will paradox. God already knows what you'll do but wants to pretend that you have a choice about what to do.
Why did Jesus have to take the blame for "our sins" when it was the father who caused it?
God is gaslighting us
god is abusive as all hell in like every way
Shitty writers.
Didn't you read the title? the snake did it.
God put the snake there, the same way my friend's dad put the porn stash in the top cupboard and told us not to play around there.
That's the funny thing. Christian tradition coopted a story to talk about an omnipotent god. But the story was originally envisioned in a context of polytheism. Originally the snake, devil, whatever, could've been any of the other supernatural entities of tribal superstition. And god wasn't omnipotent, only a creator of these people's, but no more powerful than Greek or Roman gods were.
Exactly, I mean is he stupid? Is he not aware what omniscient or omnipotent mean? Because if he does he's wasting everyone's time and if he doesn't then that's another paradox right there.
Look, if you play SimCity, is that a waste of your time? And do you care if you're wasting the time of the Sim citizens?
It's another matter if the sims are conscious, feeling individuals.
Heh, well, we are from our own point of view mostly because we define ourselves to be. Scientifically, there is no firm judgement on this and no clear definition of what "conscious" even means.
It's entirely possible that we perceive ourselves to be "conscious" because we were programmed to do so as part of the simulation.
Why create someone or allow the creation of someone if you already know they are going to be a violent axe murderer that will kill a dozen people with his bare hands, be non-repentant and end up getting thrown into everlasting hell?
God is either an idiot that doesn't know what they are doing.
Or they are psychopathic and just allow these things to happen because they like watching us perform for them.
Or even worse, they purposefully create these individuals knowing what they will do and what will result but don't care.
Why would an Axe murderer kill people with their bare hands? Wouldn't they use an Axe instead?
the axe is just swag for their IG, TikTok and OF.
Or they're running a long-term simulation and they don't really care all that much about the actions of particular individuals.
Oh tell me you've never done that in the sims.
It's even stupider than that.
The tree was not, as is commonly thought, the tree of knowledge.
It was the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
So God tells them not to eat the fruit, but doesn't give them a sense of right and wrong. Why would they even know that they had to obey him?
Then they eat the fruit, which they didn't know was a bad thing to do, and get punished for it.
It would be like leaving a steak in the room with a dog, saying, "if you eat this, you're a bad dog," then coming back and punishing the dog for eating the steak.
My god that outlet is just begging to get forked.
nice victim blaming
Exactly. You shouldn't care how it's dressed, you should know to be a good person and not fork the outlet.
Is spooning ok?
Spooning is always ok.
I just noticed the middle tines of the fork are snapped off, allowing for easy insertion.
D-don't stick your ... in there.
We're here for a good tine, not a long one
Nah, there's a clear warning written besides it. Some might say that leaving a super dangerous object in the middle of my house is careless, but I told the kids not to touch it. That's good enough. (I'm so good at parenting. It's almost unbelievable)
And when your children do end up taking the fork, insert it into the outlet and electrocute themselves ... instead of treating them, helping them or sending them to the hospital ... you call children's aide and the police and have them remove the children to be taken into foster care .... then blame the children for causing their removal from their home and into care homes and social services
I love the Gnostic response that the "serpent" was actually Sophia, who was giving knowledge to Adam and Eve because Yahweh was being an immature, narcissistic dick.
Oh so it's BYOF?
Doesn't the ground plug need to hit before the common and neutral in these outlets? Since it opens a shutter for the outlet.
If you zoom in you can barely make out the pins in the holes. Doesn't look like it has any kind of shutter.
The fork's tines are snapped in the middle, so when you insert this fork, current should pass through. Haven't tested it with a fork, but if I can insert a charger like this, a fork should work too.
I was confusing this with the UK power plug. Which has a ground pin that is longer than thecommon and neutral. It goes in first to provide an instant grounding solution but also the sockets have a shutter on the inside of the sockect that blocks the common and neutral until the ground makes contact.
So, you're saying the punishment was the goal?
This is how I keep my handgun away from my teenager here in the US. /s
Instructions unclear; fork stuck in handgun.
Former Christian here, them choosing to eat the fruit and ignoring God's instructions is the entire point. This is a lesson for humanity so that they know the consequences of ignoring the one almighty.
Don't down vote me here, I'm just the delivery girl.
Is there also some lore behind how could god punish them, even thought they couldn't distinguish between good and evil before eating from the tree? This question has already been mentioned in the comments, and nobody I've ever talked to knew the answer.
Actually it a bit worse. It's like patents also sending someone to coerce kids into fiddling the outlets with promise of an intellectual reward.
Also the consequences that "doomed the race" were the god's response to noticing they had eaten the fruit, not from the fruit itself.
A story about an abusive authority written by people who wanted authority to abuse but had to convince others that they spoke for an all-powerful being.
I've been saying that all along, Applie is an abusive daddy & it's not even about the product.
I wouldn't be shocked (...) if my parents actually did this to me when i was a kid...
