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"If Israel agrees to Hamas demands, which include the return of displaced Palestinians to northern Gaza and increasing humanitarian aid, that would pave the way for a (truce) agreement within the next 24 to 48 hours," said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive issue, as negotiations were set to resume in Cairo.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (17 children)

Hamas has offered Israel multiple very tenable peace deals that include the immediate release of all Israeli prisoners and absolutely no demand for reparations for rebuilding the strip that is now thought to be uninhabitable for 70 years. Israel has denied every single one.

They have always wanted palestinians to be exterminated. This is Israel's dream scenario.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think the word you're looking for is "uninhabitable"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Source on previous offers from Hamas?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Thank you for providing some sources. I haven't read it all yet and most of the links don't mention offers from Hamas. But I did see on Feb 20 Hamas offered to release some hostages in return for a temporary ceasefire and return of Hamas prisoners. This was rejected by Netanyahu.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

I remember hearing one that was basically surrender and leave Israel

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

If the terms don't include "kill all Palestinians" Israel isn't going to accept them.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Both sides have said the same thing and offered peace deals that the other side is unwilling to accept, doesn't really matter if neither side wants to negotiate. Sucks that the civilians just have to suffer while two assholes fight it out.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

There's only one side Genociding civilians right now and that's israel. There is no "both sides".

Israel is a Nazi state.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Hamas is terrible, Palestine is not. Hamas and Israel are in a symbiotic relationship to keep each other in power ruining the lives of all Palestinians. Hamas is in control because of work Israel did against the Palestinian Authority. That’s an important distinction you need to make. While also stating that Israel is an apartheid state committing genocide.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (17 children)

Well... I guess those Israelis that were butchered at that concert don't count, then?

Hamas is a terrorist organisation that has killed and kidnapped civilians. Israel killing more civilians doesn't make Hamas any less of a despicable bunch of fucks.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"If Israel agrees to Hamas demands..."

Well we know that's never going to happen.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Unless Joe Biden starts pressuring israel of course.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (10 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I honestly think that Bibi knows if he tanks Biden then Trump will probably be better for his government. He has basically no incentive to be reasonable since nobody is willing to hold them accountable and he knows it's very unlikely Biden will be able to.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Bibi wants genocide and the land. Trump hates Muslims and would gladly join in the bombing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

I mean of course, trump is one of the ones that helped prop up Netanyahu during his declining popularity.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Biden is not tying any of his demands to funding.

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[–] prole 15 points 5 months ago

I don't think the Israeli government has any interest in a truce, and especially not one with those terms.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

To sum up right now. Israel's pre condition is the release of all hostages. Which is also all of Hamas' leverage. Hamas' pre condition is to feed civilians. Terrorist stuff isn't great but the white house and Israel are letting Hamas dunk on them in PR.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

The thing throwing Israel off is that this isn't new. The only difference is that the world is now paying (half hearted) attention. This was the goal of the attacks. Get the world to pay attention to what Israel has been doing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's very interesting that the white house is practically admitting here that israel is using starvation as a weapon of war. And just casually includes it as "part of negotiations".

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Narrator: They didn't.

The only 'terms' the Israeli government will accept is the complete removal of every trace of Palestine.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This would be great. The Palestinian people need real aid, right now. I hope Israel figures their shit out and pulls their troops out of Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

I have a feeling they won’t do that. They’ll call the demands unreasonable, say Hamas refused to negotiate in good faith, and keep killing indiscriminately.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Israel (Zionism) has an explicit goal to ethnically cleanse the "lesser people" and establish a fascist state who has a holy duty and right to enslave all lesser people

So yeah, this has been going on for 75 years directly because of Zionist ideology, it's not going to stop now. History didn't start on Oct 7th.

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