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[–] [email protected] 140 points 1 year ago (66 children)

Revolting that this is now a "crime."

[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Yep they’re trying(and succeeding at in some states) to frame women as cattle. Where the fetus no matter what the viability is, or the danger to the women’s health, and her socioeconomic status in regards to being able to raise a kid(with little to no help from the state that made her carry the fetus to term without any social safety net and if their is one it’s completely underfunded and has lack of easy access. Wtf is going on in peoples minds that think this is alright? I swear the alt right and republicans just give lip service “ small government” while they laugh all the way to the bank and damn well make sure that their daughters,wife’s, mistresses have access to those health services that is “plebs” are not privy too. /end rant

[–] [email protected] 92 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jailing women. Jailing gay people. Killing Trans people. Banning books. Get ready the GOP/Nazi party is spreading their wings.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

The actual crime she was nabbed for was illegally hiding human remains. Her mother who provided the abortion pills is the one actually going to be in a lot more trouble it sounds like.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

Shithole country

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago

So weird to see people get bent out of shape over someone taking medication, especially since we do not have healthcare or childcare in this country.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (7 children)

These people care more about an unborn baby than they do about the baby after it's born. Actually sad.

If every one of these anti-abortion assholes want to start taking the babies of families who cannot raise them then it wouldn't be seen as just a disgustingly hypocritical movement. That is not the case. If you want to start forcing women to have babies they can't care for but you don't want to take care of the consequences of that, you are the problem.

Nobodies out here delivering fully sized aborted babies for shits and giggles. Pregnancies are painful and traumatic enough.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (16 children)

Celeste Burgess, now 19, pleaded guilty to illegally concealing human remains after she had an abortion when around 28 weeks pregnant, beyond the 20-week limit then set by Nebraska law.

This was before the change in the law. It is certainly possible that there were medical issues or that Nebraska made it extremely difficult to get an abortion. I wish the article offered more details. 28 weeks is extremely late for an abortion.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If I am reading this right, this sentencing is not even for the abortion. It is for hiding the body.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (10 children)

For her, yes. The mother is being charged with providing an illegal abortion.

Not sure what the rules are for disposing of a late term abortion or what they should be.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Just to point out something the headline is missing:

I'm the united states 99% of abortions happen before the 21st week. For every state that has any sort of time limit on abortion, the absolute latest is the 25th week.

At some point, there needs to be a cut off. At some point we should all be able to agree that the baby is too far along to be aborted. This girl took a pill at the 28th week, which was far beyond when it was designed to be taken.

Now I don't know if 28 weeks should be old enough for a criminal charge, but it's definitely not as black and white as the headline makes it seem

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Sure. I think that cutoff should be at birth. Because why should we have any baby born that will not be cared for?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

my opinion is that the cutoff is viability. until the fetus can survive on it's own without significant intervention, it's not a living person. if the baby can be delivered and survive/thrive with minimal intervention, you're past the cutoff.

but, it's worth noting that i am not someone who can carry/deliver, so grain of salt and all. and, additionally, this is a compromise mentality. i ultimately think that the issue of abortion should 100% be between a person and their doctor with zero influence or regulation by government agencies.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Seems News is just "US News". I gave up all interest in US politics after the 2016 primaries. Good luck with fixing your shit. I'm out.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Nebraska shit hole state. Never will I go there.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Considering no one would want to have an abortion in the third trimester if they couldn't help it, this is either a situation of them being blocked from having an abortion at every turn earlier or a case where they wanted the baby, but found out that it was going to harm the mother and the state would do nothing about it because an unborn fetus trumps the life of the mother.

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