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So in the latest installment of what won't make MAGA throw a tantrum.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 6 months ago (4 children)

That article took way too long to get to the fucking point that the character is nonbinary.

And I doubt most bigots even know about this cartoon existing. They didn't even give an example.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago (2 children)

So, is this journalism trying to make a problem where there is no problem?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

I guess if they keep us fighting amongst ourselves we won’t see them picking our pockets, and taking our rights.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Like always. They need conflict to gain views and wow investors.

[–] Tar_alcaran 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Making one character not-straight means you'll get tens of millions worth of advertising from the maga crowd and everyone laughing at them

For example, I didn't know this show existed until I saw a post laughing at someone whining about it.

[–] mindbleach 3 points 6 months ago

Yeah, pretty sure I heard about She-Ra thanks to Thought Slime picking apart why diet Nazis were big mad about the title character not being feminine enough. If any of them made it to Double Trouble's introduction they might've had an aneurysm.

... Adora is kind of a female himbo, though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Thanks for summary. I got bored in first paragraph and came to comments. Thx

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Maybe stick your head outside of the bubble for a second and you'd see conservative on social media complain about the trailer and Disney being woke again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Which conservatives? Random assholes? Because your article gave no examples.

Also, telling someone to get outside of their bubble and go on social media is pretty amusing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I watched the trailer when it came out and I've already got crap YouTube videos popping up in my feed by people like TheQuartering and Ednymiontv, while not your Ben Shaprio or Tim Poole douche canoes, they're large YouTubers already complaining and yeah, you've also got other rando's on twitter that are harping on this too.

And while the article I posted didn't post specific examples, which yeah I admit they didn't, I'm sure that you could have used basic internet search skill to see these examples. Just because you don't seem to stick your head out to see this doesn't mean it's not there buddy, it's just not spoon-fed to you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

So no one important or influential, just random assholes.

Why do you give a shit what random assholes think? Are they going to change the character to cis? No. They aren't. So why does this matter?

[–] [email protected] 54 points 6 months ago

Wait until they find out that an entire subtheme of the show is mutants discovering how to coexist with those who would have them subjugated for being different...

[–] [email protected] 49 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So a character that can literally change genders at will considers themselves to be nonbinary?

That's... Completely logical.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Assigned non-binary at birth

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Resident Comic Book Guy here...

Morph was originally introduced in X-Men #35 in 1967 under the name "Changeling":

https://gocollect.com/comic/x-men-35

He took the appearance of Professor X and remained in the book until #42 (1968) where he was killed off as Xavier.

https://gocollect.com/comic/x-men-42

After bringing him back for the 1992 Animated series under the name Morph ("Changeling" was taken by DC comics for their human/animal shapeshifter), and the comic book adaptation of that series (where he is also killed off), the current version was introduced in 1995 as part of the "Age of Apocalypse" alternate timeline.

https://www.marvel.com/comics/issue/12386/x-men_alpha_1995_1

Morph is a mimic who can change his appearance to match anyone, male or female, similar to Mystique, who for years was assumed to have been Nightcrawler's mother, but was recently revealed to have been his father (X-Men Blue: Origins #1)

https://www.marvel.com/comics/issue/111680/x-men_blue_origins_1_2023_1

Following 60 years of comics is pretty much a soap opera.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm thinking of the mechanics of a shape-shifter being pregnant... like, if they switched genders would the fetus just get stuck inside between organs and die, or would it cease to exist? Would the shape-shifter be able to take on a male outward appearance while maintaining a uterus? Or would they just not shift for 9 months?

Much simpler, I suppose, for the shape-shifter to father a child.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

@jordanlund

Mystique, who for years was assumed to have been Nightcrawler’s mother, but was recently revealed to have been his father (X-Men Blue: Origins #1)

This is literally what South Park revealed in season two about Cartman’s father. The person we know as Eric’s mother was actually his father.

[–] mindbleach 4 points 6 months ago

assumed to have been Nightcrawler’s mother, but was recently revealed to have been his father

With multiverse time travel, they're lucky it wasn't both.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago

The whole premise of the show was the government persecuting those it didn't like. They are only proving the point of the show.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

For real though, why do bigots even like X-Men? It's not even remotely subtle.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Getting mad at X-Men for being "woke" is just very, very very stupid and I don't even want to throw justification as to why because it should be so obvious if you've even take one look at the media source that they're effectively outing themselves as morons.

If you get mad at other franchises for revisionist inclusivity, whatever, but c'mon it's X-Men, there's no limits here.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

They said the same for Star Trek. The cognitive dissonance is astonishing. It's almost as if these fuckwads don't read/watch the original source material and just need an excuse to hate on fictional characters that are depicted a certain way they don't likd.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

XY-men? XXY-men?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

He can change his gender on a whim - of course he (or rather they?) would be non-binary.

Also, Mystique is Nightcrawler's father, so it's not exactly a new idea for mutant shapeshifters.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Bigot brains run on fear, insecurities, and anger. Makes them very easy to control if you have no ethics.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

97X BAM...The Future of Rock and Roll

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


After yesterday brought with it the first look at X-Men ‘97 in action we also got to learn a bit more about one of its more fascination inclusions on the X-Team: the full-time return to the animated fold for shapeshifting mutant Morph.

He was introduced as a minor character in the comics as Kevin Syndey, aka Changeling—with that codename tweaked to Morph for TV due to an alleged copyright concern with DC Comics, which used the Changeling codename for Teen Titan’s Beast Boy—and was brought into the world of animated X-Men, where he skyrocketed to popularity by, well, immediately dying.

Morph has undergone some pretty radical changes in the decades between The Animated Series and ‘97, adopting the pale, hairless, and blankly-featured visage that the character was given when an alternate version of the character inspired by the cartoon series was integrated into comics continuity with the Age of Apocalypse storyline, and then through another alternate riff in the multiversal teambook Exiles.

The mutant allegory has been a stand-in for a large variety of minority causes since the inception of the X-Men, from political thought, to racial discrimination to, yes, issues of gender identity and queerness.

Some of these allegories work better than others—race has always been a fraught lens for the mutant metaphor in particular, especially as more and more non-white mutants have stepped into the spotlight, perhaps best emphasized in the infamous moment in the 1982 storyline “God Loves, Man Kills,” where Kitty Pryde uses a racial slur to draw equivalence to being called a “mutie.” But the connection between mutantkind and queerness has always been particularly potent, and a topic the franchise has engaged with for generations and generations of storytelling in ways big and small.

Star Wars faced a similar dilemma in introducing the first trans-identifying Jedi in the alien bond-pair Terec and Ceret in its High Republic comics.


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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

I like that they leaned into AoA/Exiles Morph's look.