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submitted 4 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

The United Nations Security Council is likely to vote on Tuesday on an Algerian push for the 15-member body to demand an immediate humanitarian ceasefire in the Israel-Hamas war, said diplomats, a move the United States signaled it would veto.

"The United States does not support action on this draft resolution. Should it come up for a vote as drafted, it will not be adopted," Thomas-Greenfield said in a statement on Saturday.

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[-] [email protected] 90 points 4 months ago

It truly amazes me that US still refuses to ceasefire after more than 20 000 normal civilians of the Palestinian people have been murdered by the Israeli government.

This has nothing to do with either “self defense” or “defeating” Hamas anymore.

[-] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago

Because they support the actions of Zionist Israel. The US talk about getting in aid and of humanitarian ceasefires but they still give them billions of dollars and weapons.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

They also inked deals for gas/oil exporting rights to the Gazan coast.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago
[-] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago

Why is veto still there? How the hell is the US or any other veto country superior to others? How does their opinion matter more than what the majority of the world thinks? This veto thing should be abolished for good.

[-] ryathal 35 points 4 months ago

The un is about making countries feel heard while the super powers run everything. It's not about equal rights.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The UN is practically ran by America so chances are low it will change against its interests.

Aside from lip-service the only time it will intervene is when an African dictator backed by Western powers is facing a revolution.

I still like it because it forces countries to vote on something and openly show where they stand on subjects. But it doesn't have much practical value.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Its not run by the US, but by all permanent members. China and Russia are doing the same shit, see Ukraine for example.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Because international law and order is more of a ‘here are laws that I order you to follow’ when it comes to the relation of powerful countries to weaker countries. It’s a joke.

[-] Aurenkin 2 points 4 months ago
[-] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Can we just get rid of vetoes? What’s the point?

[-] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago

The veto and permanent seats are there to keep the superpowers in the UN organization. If you take away the veto, then US, Russia, etc would probably just say they don't recognize the authority of the security council, and then go do their own thing.

This veto mechanic kept the US and USSR in the room and at least talking to each other throughout the entire cold war. That's gotta be worth something.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

It's worth nothing and it shows time and time again.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

We don't know what it's worth, because we aren't living in an alternate universe where the US and USSR weren't in open dialogue through the cold war. We're still in the pre-WWIII reality (for a few years, at least).

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Nah, we don't need to be living in an alternate reality. It's useless and never helps. The countries permanently on the security council always have an interest in any war that happens. So every resolution worth a damn is getting instantly vetoed by one of them. All it is, is facebook's "thoughts and prayers" on the geopolitical scale.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

They could try, but something tells me that vote would get vetoed.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

There will probably be a slightly amended one that gets passed more quietly in a few days. That's what happened the last time. The US vetoed the first one, then abstained from the second to let it pass.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/22/politics/un-security-council-resolution-israel-gaza-resolution/index.html

[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That resolution was about humanitarian aid, and has been fully ignored and violated.

Also the first ceasefire was vetoed by America because it "didn't condemn Hamas".

Then Brazil submitted asimilar motion to call for a ceasefire AND condemn Hamas.** And then America vetoed it again.**

Genocide Joe wants to keep this going

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