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[–] [email protected] 150 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Americans be like; “If you can’t afford to pay 69% tip then don’t go out eating at all”

[–] [email protected] 105 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If you're going to say "69%" , you need to call it eating out, not out eating.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Also, complaining that things will cost too much if waiters eek by on more than minimum wage.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The cost is literally the same... Restaurants would just be upfront about it then.

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[–] [email protected] 127 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (39 children)

Something I don't get, why is it percentage based? I mean, I get it from the waiters perspective. But as a customer? Whether my one plate of food is 20$ or 200$, he did the same thing. Scaling with more items or time spent would seem more appropriate.

[–] Imgonnatrythis 143 points 10 months ago (3 children)

If you are are trying to find logic within tipping you might as well chase windmills. It's dumb as bolts.

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[–] [email protected] 122 points 10 months ago (15 children)

Keep this garbage out of europe please. i see it popping up. I will absolutely refuse to tip a single goddamn soul at this point going forward.

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[–] [email protected] 115 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (34 children)

The whole damn system exists to place the burden of a living wage on the customer while the company paying peanuts can claim no wrongdoing. And the really sad part is: it has worked.

Edit: and there are many, many businesses that wouldn't be in business if they actually had to pay competitive wages on their own. The invisible hand can fix nothing if tipping culture says to throw more and more arbitrary amounts of money at people to subsidize their wages yourself. At some point (I'd argue we're past it already), the band-aid needs to get ripped off. Only then will we see self-correction. The almost immediate loss of many businesses will likely trigger other actions. It's already a no-win scenario.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 10 months ago (67 children)

I just stopped going to places or using services that expect me to tip. I hate the idea of tipping.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I remember when I realized tipping is insane (like 15 years ago at a bar). One of my friends was talking the waitress up and she was complaining about another table and the tip she expected. Some quick math worked out to she expected 40%.

[–] Imgonnatrythis 36 points 10 months ago

Keep in mind by doing that she probably raised her tip from your friend by at least 10%. I wouldn't assume there wasn't some strategy in that conversation.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 10 months ago (17 children)

Every time we go to Toronto we go to the same restaurant because they don't accept tips, they just pay their staff really well. Fantastic restaurant and I love supporting them.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 10 months ago (34 children)

I don’t really get why the expected percentage went up. 15% was the standard for a LONG time. 20% meant you thought they were great. Now 15 is considered shitty, like an insult, and we’re supposed to do 18 or 25 or 30. Meanwhile prices also went up. Why am I supposed to tip 25% now? Service hasn’t changed.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Tipping in general should be for a good service or out of convenience. It shouldn't be expected

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 10 months ago (9 children)

Actually pay restaurant workers a decent wage goddammit!

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I've literally never seen a waiter get angry about not leaving a 25% tip. Can we please avoid manufactured outrage?

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Restaurants when they expect a 40% tip after you drive to the store for pickup

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 10 months ago (11 children)

It does annoy me slightly when POS systems have placeholder tip amounts but they're like 18%, 20%, and 25%. Sorry, but I just do the standard 15% in most cases so now I gotta calculate it out in my head.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm gonna go with the standard 0% or round up the number if i feel like it.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Right? Like why is people's STANDARD giving money away.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Normally, you're paying a tip on service. So, the waiter hovering over your table and collecting your order / refilling your drink / dusting off the table between courses is part of the dining experience. Its fee for service.

But yeah, now the credit card reader asks if you want to pay a tip to the fucking vending machine. Its asinine.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago (7 children)

I just had a POS machine recommend 20%, 25%, or 30% for percentages. It seems like it's increasing

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Why not pay hospitality workers a halfway decent wage, and leave tipping for exemplary service? That's how it works in the rest of the developed world.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 10 months ago (1 children)

we're on the verge of a recession I gotta cut back

someone should make and serve my meals for me

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago (8 children)

How about increasing wages to promote more consumer spending? Henry Ford-- a literal Nazi-- of all people, knew this!

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago (7 children)

One thing: We're not on the verge of a recession. The right wing media needs to make things up to attack and that was one of them. I couldn't believe all that talk, nothing happened, nothing was about to happen, but they fear mongered for months.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Look at Mr. Fatcat over here eating out while we're on the verge of a recession.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago (38 children)

Don't hate the player, the owner is the one to blame

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (2 children)

$70 is a few days worth of food if you do groceries. Plus $0 tips

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Getting real sick of the customer holding the weight of being the financial planner for a business and the owners getting by with no blame for wage stealing and shitty business practices in this circumstance.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago (19 children)

Ahh yes, verge of a recession, but there's enough money to patronize a sit down restaurant where it's well known that the owner pays their staff starvation wages. Fuck your server!

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago

On the verge of a recession is gonna be new go to excuse.

“Sorry babe, can’t do a bday gift this year. Nothing has changed for me, but there may or may not be a recession lurking in the shadows”

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