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[-] [email protected] 150 points 5 months ago

Americans be like; “If you can’t afford to pay 69% tip then don’t go out eating at all”

[-] [email protected] 105 points 5 months ago

If you're going to say "69%" , you need to call it eating out, not out eating.

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[-] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago

Also, complaining that things will cost too much if waiters eek by on more than minimum wage.

[-] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago

The cost is literally the same... Restaurants would just be upfront about it then.

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[-] [email protected] 127 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Something I don't get, why is it percentage based? I mean, I get it from the waiters perspective. But as a customer? Whether my one plate of food is 20$ or 200$, he did the same thing. Scaling with more items or time spent would seem more appropriate.

[-] Imgonnatrythis 143 points 5 months ago

If you are are trying to find logic within tipping you might as well chase windmills. It's dumb as bolts.

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[-] [email protected] 122 points 5 months ago

Keep this garbage out of europe please. i see it popping up. I will absolutely refuse to tip a single goddamn soul at this point going forward.

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[-] [email protected] 115 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The whole damn system exists to place the burden of a living wage on the customer while the company paying peanuts can claim no wrongdoing. And the really sad part is: it has worked.

Edit: and there are many, many businesses that wouldn't be in business if they actually had to pay competitive wages on their own. The invisible hand can fix nothing if tipping culture says to throw more and more arbitrary amounts of money at people to subsidize their wages yourself. At some point (I'd argue we're past it already), the band-aid needs to get ripped off. Only then will we see self-correction. The almost immediate loss of many businesses will likely trigger other actions. It's already a no-win scenario.

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[-] [email protected] 94 points 5 months ago

"On the verge" of a recession? What the fuck planet are you living on?

[-] [email protected] 84 points 5 months ago

"No need to worry, citizen! We have once again successfully avoided a recession by changing how a recession is defined!"

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[-] [email protected] 77 points 5 months ago

I just stopped going to places or using services that expect me to tip. I hate the idea of tipping.

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[-] [email protected] 70 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I remember when I realized tipping is insane (like 15 years ago at a bar). One of my friends was talking the waitress up and she was complaining about another table and the tip she expected. Some quick math worked out to she expected 40%.

[-] Imgonnatrythis 36 points 5 months ago

Keep in mind by doing that she probably raised her tip from your friend by at least 10%. I wouldn't assume there wasn't some strategy in that conversation.

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[-] [email protected] 63 points 5 months ago

I don’t really get why the expected percentage went up. 15% was the standard for a LONG time. 20% meant you thought they were great. Now 15 is considered shitty, like an insult, and we’re supposed to do 18 or 25 or 30. Meanwhile prices also went up. Why am I supposed to tip 25% now? Service hasn’t changed.

[-] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago

Tipping in general should be for a good service or out of convenience. It shouldn't be expected

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[-] [email protected] 63 points 5 months ago

Every time we go to Toronto we go to the same restaurant because they don't accept tips, they just pay their staff really well. Fantastic restaurant and I love supporting them.

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[-] [email protected] 62 points 5 months ago

Actually pay restaurant workers a decent wage goddammit!

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[-] [email protected] 60 points 5 months ago

I've literally never seen a waiter get angry about not leaving a 25% tip. Can we please avoid manufactured outrage?

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[-] [email protected] 58 points 5 months ago

Restaurants when they expect a 40% tip after you drive to the store for pickup

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[-] [email protected] 54 points 5 months ago

It does annoy me slightly when POS systems have placeholder tip amounts but they're like 18%, 20%, and 25%. Sorry, but I just do the standard 15% in most cases so now I gotta calculate it out in my head.

[-] [email protected] 55 points 5 months ago

I'm gonna go with the standard 0% or round up the number if i feel like it.

[-] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago

Right? Like why is people's STANDARD giving money away.

[-] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Normally, you're paying a tip on service. So, the waiter hovering over your table and collecting your order / refilling your drink / dusting off the table between courses is part of the dining experience. Its fee for service.

But yeah, now the credit card reader asks if you want to pay a tip to the fucking vending machine. Its asinine.

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[-] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago

I just had a POS machine recommend 20%, 25%, or 30% for percentages. It seems like it's increasing

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[-] [email protected] 47 points 5 months ago

Why not pay hospitality workers a halfway decent wage, and leave tipping for exemplary service? That's how it works in the rest of the developed world.

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[-] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago

we're on the verge of a recession I gotta cut back

someone should make and serve my meals for me

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[-] [email protected] 42 points 5 months ago

How about increasing wages to promote more consumer spending? Henry Ford-- a literal Nazi-- of all people, knew this!

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[-] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago

One thing: We're not on the verge of a recession. The right wing media needs to make things up to attack and that was one of them. I couldn't believe all that talk, nothing happened, nothing was about to happen, but they fear mongered for months.

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[-] [email protected] 37 points 5 months ago

Look at Mr. Fatcat over here eating out while we're on the verge of a recession.

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[-] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago
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[-] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago

Don't hate the player, the owner is the one to blame

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[-] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago

$70 is a few days worth of food if you do groceries. Plus $0 tips

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[-] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Getting real sick of the customer holding the weight of being the financial planner for a business and the owners getting by with no blame for wage stealing and shitty business practices in this circumstance.

[-] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago

Ahh yes, verge of a recession, but there's enough money to patronize a sit down restaurant where it's well known that the owner pays their staff starvation wages. Fuck your server!

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[-] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago

On the verge of a recession is gonna be new go to excuse.

“Sorry babe, can’t do a bday gift this year. Nothing has changed for me, but there may or may not be a recession lurking in the shadows”

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