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And saw a bunch of posts about the third party apps closing down, and lots of negativity about that whole fiasco.

... And I realized I hadn't been there for a week... And frankly didn't miss it. I am really loving the beehaw (and Lemmy as a whole) community. Thanks for being open, welcoming, responsive, engaging, and just generally nice people. I'm happy to be here. :)

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm gonna stay on my 3rd party app until the June 30 midnight close.. I want to try and witness one of the biggest tech crashes in modern history.

I really think reddit hubris has massively underestimated the user loss they're about to feel.

FUCK Em'!... (⁠╯⁠°⁠□⁠°⁠)⁠╯⁠︵⁠ ⁠┻⁠━⁠┻

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

You overestimate how many people use third-party apps. They are the (very) vocal minority. They may represent a majority of the content submitted, but there's an arbitrary number of web users who don't have an account (hi) in addition to all the casual users who just use the app.

[–] Hagarashi8 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes it's vocal minority, but that local minority is the reason why silent majority have content that keeps them on reddit.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not just content creation, but moderation / free labour

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think this is the death of Reddit, but I do think it's the dumbing down of Reddit. A lot of the power users that spend all day interacting and posting are going to be the ones leaving. Reddit will turn from a social community back into a simple link aggregator with people posting articles and having the same discussions over and over again in the comments.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are not wrong, but Reddit will never be the same. This whole IPO business is effectively the death of Reddit as we know it, to be replaced with a mediocre TikTok clone. It takes strong leadership among execs and ownership for profit-driven corporation to stay the course and remain successful.

Reddit has neither. Just a legacy and incumbency.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I share this attitude. Been on reddit for 17 years but am super sad to see Apollo go. That said, I use reddit on desktop with Enhancement Suite and it's tolerable, after all the curation I have done on my subs. So it may be hard to leave, if I'm truly honest with myself. Dipping my toes in elsewhere to see what resonates, though. I'm super frustrated with the capitalist money grab and centralized social media problem reddit personifies. :(

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

old.reddit is definitely going soon too unfortunately. I thought I’d just use that, but reddit’s actions in the past few days have convinced me that after 10 years it’s time to go.

[–] god 15 points 1 year ago

Ehh I doubt it'll crash. Most major subs are modded by their own people. Worst case scenario they'll overthrow the mods that blacked out, prop up some puppets and continue as if nothing had happened. Worst case scenario they lose 6% of their audience and recover it back in a few months of ads.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly, even if it's not a huge crash, it's already shown a lot of people the better way of handling social media. Closer groups with access to a larger community. Seems far better than the monolith that is Reddit or Twitter.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'll miss what Reddit was but not what it's become. Good riddance to yet another enshittified social media site.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t expect Lenny/Beehaw etc to ever get as big as Reddit, and to be honest that’s probably for the best.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's the thing... I think back to some of the communities I used to be a part of decades ago, and the size of them... I miss those communities. I'm ready to return to a smaller internet.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I had a realization last night.

Used to spend a lot of time on reddit on ttrpg subreddits reading about how other people were running their games instead of working on my own campaigns. Now, a lot of the time I would have spent reading about how someone else was doing the thing I wanted to, I'm just doing it. The dynamic is inverted.

This is what healing looks like.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think I'm going to still use reddit to solve certain problems when googling. It's still a good resource for solving specific problems. Just won't spend any browsing time there. Just in an out.

[–] Echolot 19 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Same here, Google has slowly become unusable for certain topics if you don't append "reddit" to your search.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I was just perusing the big AMA with the CEO or whatever the spez guy is. They are not holding up well lmao.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Popping my Lemmy cherry!

That ama is what convinced me that reddit is dead, and in like 3 minutes took me from being sad about it to enthusiastically watching it die.

[–] catharticrespite 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I'd bet my left nut reddit will survive for quite a while yet, probably do even better over time

The kind of people who end up here just aren't the target demographic for them anymore

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe… but I’d guess in the same sense that Digg is still around. You’re right about the type of people migrating here, though - Reddit no longer cares about intelligent discussion, it’s all memes and snark and political outrage. They don’t want an informed populace, they want a populace that can be steered toward whatever they want.

This is not the first mass migration I’ve seen from Reddit, but this is the first one that feels like it might actually stick, for a couple of reasons: First, Lemmy finally feels like a viable alternative. Previous alternatives like Voat were quite abrasive - like I’m all about free speech, but I don’t want to see a bunch of hateful content just for the sake of being shocking. Second, this time they’re fucking with the mods. And while a lot can be said about the quality of the moderation over there, people abhorr being asked to do more with less, especially when they’re working for free. Lose the mods and the site is DONE. It will be overrun with spam so quick it’ll make your head spin, and then the last exodus will occur, quietly. And Reddit cannot afford to replace the unpaid mods with paid mods, they simply don’t have the resources.

It will be interesting to see how things go with Lemmy, but I have hopes - with it being decentralized, if a community becomes toxic or overly-censored it seems easy enough to spin up a rival on a different instance and filter the bad actor. At least that seems to be the pitch, let’s see how things shake out over the next year or two.

I’ve been on Reddit for nearly 15 years (since just prior to the digg migration), but it is nothing like what it used to be - it’s changed, man, and not at all for the better. Lemmy definitely feels more like Reddit of old, and I’m excited to be here - now I just need to find my hobby communities and I’ll have my new internet home. But the communities will come, the apps will come, and I have high hopes. Let’s go!

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

I'm just hoping that most of my favorite niche subs move to something more decentralized; Reddit has a bunch of specialized communities that I'd hate to lose.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Welcome! I just came over yesterday because I submitted a report, WHICH WAS ACCEPTED AND ACTIONED BY REDDIT, then got a week ban for abusing the report feature.

I guess they don't want us tying up resources as they work overtime to alienate the users that make Reddit worth a shit. 🤷

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It really seems like they are tying to tackle two issues at once here (LLM training on reddit data, revenue from 3rd party apps) and they aren't doing a great job at communicating why they are making the API changes. It doesn't help that the company has a history of making empty promises, so nobody trusts a word they say.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

It doesn't help that they're lying through their teeth trying to throw somebody under the bus who thought ahead and brought the receipts to the party 😂

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Honestly, if there is one thing Huffman has demonstrated in that thread, it is that he need to be replaced as CEO. What an embarrassment.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Haven't stopped using reddit, tbh. But my usage has noticeably dropped - haven't even commented on a single thing but one after installing Jerboa. Having an alternative really does help. I'm confident I can completely stop redditing on mobile by the end of the month as long as this community stays active.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, I'm unsure what to do. I'm lead mod for /r/SanAntonio a city I recently left, and I feel an urge to do something with it. Like use it to make a statement or something.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (15 children)

You guys with mod experience are really valuable, imo. Can't help with what you want to do with your reddit sub, but it would be great to see your subs here!

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[–] SmugBedBug 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't been back to Reddit since I created an account on here a few days ago. I thought I would be going back there regularly to consult my more niche subreddits, but I haven't been back at all.

I'm happy with where Lemmy is right now. So for me it can only get better here. I think I'm 100% done with Reddit.

RIP Sync for Reddit, you were my go-to for the past decade.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've curated my subreddits pretty well, so I will miss some of them if they don't move over here or someplace similar. But there's enough going on that I think it will not be too bad.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I've been spending way less time on Reddit too since I joined Lemmy. I wanna help spread the word about Lemmy on Reddit, but I don't know how to do that without having it come across as an advertisement.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am happy to see reddit go. I came in to reddit on the Dogg exodus, tried to leave reddit on one exodus that turned out to be all racist and right wing (voat maybe?) So then went back. If Lemmy doesn't work I'm just going to have to go outside or something

[–] god 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I recommend going outside anyway. Exercise adds a big chunk of life expectancy and well-being.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Lemmy is great. It doesn't need to be the end all to be all, and it doesn't need to be a reddit killer. It just needs to be around for whoever wants to congregate and discuss.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (13 children)

I just deleted my account which was over 10 years old. I don't need that kind of negativity. Only positivity from here on out. Keep being awesome Lemmy.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

I still don't understand how everything works here but I love the positivity I see !

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If there's content on Reddit you absolutely must view, I definitely endorse RSS readers. No need for an account and you get rid of the infinite scrolling and data mining of the Front-page view

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I just joined beehaw myself (was fumbling around on mastodon for a while but to me it feels too much like a twitter clone). So far I'm really enjoying the genuine interactions on here. Very much has an old reddit vibe that hopefully will survive even with the upcoming mass migration!

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Happy to be here as well. Hopefully we can see beehaw grow to be great!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (7 children)

This link posted there seems concerning. Any individual instance can issue a federal ban? https://lemmy.pineapplemachine.com/post/5781

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Reddit gets maybe 15 minutes a day from me at this point. I'm not even sure I want a replacement for it. I'll be removing my reddit app from the phone on blackout day. Maybe I'll reinstall, maybe I won't.

This place seems nice, though.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I wouldn't be surprised if Reddit pulls an insta and starts hiding its content behind an account wall.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I went to Reddit today.... also, and deleted my account. :)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I opened Apollo yesterday and got the notification it was going to be shutting down on the 30th. It was such a bummer—I really don’t plan on going back to Reddit now. Treat it like Quora, at best.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm still on Reddit because I have some specific interests that is not present here or the communities about them are not active. But when people with the same interests will go here, yeah I will not miss Reddit

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I deleted my last account a few days ago, and only go there whenever a relevant post is shared here, like the app devs' announcements.

Earlier today I clicked on r/all out of curiosity, and aside from the API and sub shutdown topic, everything was as I remembered: boring, regurgitated stuff that I can never tell if a bot / karma farmer reposted it, if the comments are genuine or more bots or trolls.

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