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And saw a bunch of posts about the third party apps closing down, and lots of negativity about that whole fiasco.

... And I realized I hadn't been there for a week... And frankly didn't miss it. I am really loving the beehaw (and Lemmy as a whole) community. Thanks for being open, welcoming, responsive, engaging, and just generally nice people. I'm happy to be here. :)

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, I'm unsure what to do. I'm lead mod for /r/SanAntonio a city I recently left, and I feel an urge to do something with it. Like use it to make a statement or something.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You guys with mod experience are really valuable, imo. Can't help with what you want to do with your reddit sub, but it would be great to see your subs here!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly, the complexity of federated services isn't for mass adoption. And /r/SanAntonio users are some of the last I would expect to see adopt lemmy. And I feel I'd have to get comfortable with it myself before recommending others, as that comes with the obligation to help them out.

Like, why do thse two instances of this post have 1 common comment, and 1 missing? https://beehaw.org/post/473716 https://lemmy.pineapplemachine.com/post/5781

Also, what's with this 'search [email protected] on your instance to find this post and be able to comment on it' crap. I was linked to pineapplemachine from beehaw, maybe thats the other user's fault... idk. it's a real rough experience from the start.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please give Lemmy some more time to develop. Until the Reddit API announcements this week, it only had 2 hobbyist developers contributing to it at a slow rate because of its small userbase.

Content can appear slightly different between instances because of how posts are retrieved with federation. In the threads you linked, it's likely that the older comment doesn't appear on beehaw.org because it was posted before beehaw.org federated with lemmy.pineapplemachine.com. Comments that were posted before two instances federate with each other are not synced between the instances. This prevents small instances federating with big ones like lemmy.ml from being bombarded by thousands of comment requests.

The problem with links to remote communities not converting to links on the home server and the confusing federation process are also being worked on, but again, Lemmy (and Kbin)'s contributors are a few unpaid developers. They can't be expected to push production-quality Reddit features instantly.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I'll definitely give it some more time, I thought I saw a post somewhere that Lemmy was being developed by 2 paid developers. Regardless, I may try my hand at contributing. I've got a degree in compsci and some experience on a few personal projects. But first gotta get my head wrapped around how all this works and then get digging through the code.

Just watched a video that mentioned the possibility of following a mastadon account from a peertube account, being able to communicate cross-instance and cross-application within the fediverse, which sounds like a neat ability. Though I don't see how to do that just yet. I'll keep poking around and reading.

[–] mobiuscoffee 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

When I was feeling overwhelmed by all the cumbersome clicks that come with getting used to lemmy, I found kbin to be a better way to just explore what's across all instances.

https://kbin.social/

It's a different project but can access and interact with everything on lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's so cool to be able to use different front-ends to access the same content. I personally prefer Lemmy's software, but it's refreshing to have a choice in how we interact with a content platform.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's the social media equivalent of KDE and Gnome.

With KDE being kbin in this analogy because they both have the letter k in it. Logic.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love that! Honestly the whole reddit fiasco has been a huge push for me to switch to open-source platforms. I'm now on Invidious instead of Youtube, here instead of reddit, and I downloaded the LibRedirect addon to redirect me to open-source alternatives whenever available.

I already run Linux Mint on my laptop, so right now the last big holdout is my desktop running the reviOS version of Windows 11, and my phone which I need to get around to rooting.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That's great! I think we're at a stage of the Internet where companies are grasping ever tighter. But as Princess Leia said, "The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers."

[–] mobiuscoffee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've ended up liking the lemmy interface more, but it was definitely way too overwhelming at first. Kbin helped me understand how content is spread out across instances in a much more obvious way.

That then let me know which communities I should sub to in order to make my lemmy account more what I wanted and expected.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'm definitely a nerd who loves to tinker with tech-y stuff so I just spent an entire day playing around, but yeah kbin has a bunch of potential in regards to making onboarding smoother.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there a mobile app for kbin.social? I'd like to use that too since that's where I browse on my PC, but Jerboa doesn't seem to support it.

[–] mobiuscoffee 4 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure! I stopped using kbin after getting more comfortable with how lemmy works.

I think I remember something about a very early build for an app, but I'm not sure. You should make a thread and ask!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This is the way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Hello from kbin (too) 👋

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Is there an app?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm a few miles up 35 and finding the only real utility Reddit provides other than killing time is /r/Austin, and even there ... well, I get NWS alerts on my phone, take transit and don't lose pets, so the level of usefulness may be more imagined than real.

At the same time, the initial reasons I joined Reddit other than link aggregation aren't what they once were. I've found that DIY projects I learn about on Reddit and then have questions about details on get zero responses, and the communities I joined years ago have been so overrun by people who want karma over discussion that there's not much value there, either.

Using Google to search Reddit can be useful, but then you get a great detailed post from four years ago and can't do anything with it if you have further questions. The thread is locked on account of age, and people get pissed if you post a new thread on the same topic that links to the original.

What this API fiasco has done is bring into specific relief where Reddit has already failed and turned all of those into a cohesive narrative that was lacking up to this point. I'd heard of Tildes but not Lemmy until this week, and already my work internet use has switched from RSS then Reddit to Beehaw then RSS.

I guess I needed to get hit over the head with just how bad things had gotten via external forces to overcome inertia. Interestingly, two months ago, I was running Windows on all my computers, and I finally snapped on how invasive notifications and forced-app shenangians had gotten.

The stages of grief may end with acceptance where people are involved, but they certainly don't need to with technologies and platforms. I'm starting to better understand the grousing I wrote off as narcissistic woe-the-hell-is-me was actually a congregation of coal-mine canaries.