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This link posted there seems concerning. Any individual instance can issue a federal ban? https://lemmy.pineapplemachine.com/post/5781
I believe it's ban logs that are federated, not the bans themselves, but I don't have any proof. Could someone running a personal instance test this by banning a remote user and see if they can still interact with other remote instances?
Note that if a user is banned by their home instance, it's expected that they can't interact with any remote instance either, as all of their posts will pass through their home instance first.
If Beehaw bans from the site someone that is on a remote instance, that account can no longer interact with any Beehaw communities. If Beehaw bans from the community someone that is on a remote instance, that account can no longer interact in that community.
That makes sense, but I think what Smoke assumes from the federated mod logs is that if Beehaw bans me (a remote user) from beehaw.org and the ban message federates over to my home instance feddit.dk and lemmy.ml, I will be banned from feddit.dk and lemmy.ml as well. While it's unlikely that bans can federate between instances, I don't have any proof of this.
Ban logs do federate but the effects aren't in the way you describe. Otherwise, someone could just ban everyone over night by making their own little server, that'd be uh, quite chaotic to say the least? Thankfully, this is not how bans work through federation.
I can just envision the havoc that would ensue if someone could ban you from the instance you're the admin of.
It's probably up to the community admins to ignore or take external bans into consideration; like different countries and Interpol
If you have low resources you could copy ban lists to keep spam out (though that could be used to attack random users , though big communities' ban lists may have more reputation - like beehaw is a big established community ~ ?
This can be relevant.