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The Main Intelligence Directorate of Ukraine's Ministry of Defense claims that pro-Ukrainian hacktivists breached the Russian Center for Space Hydrometeorology, aka "planeta" (планета), and wiped 2 petabytes of data.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago (12 children)

I see all the comments saying Ukraine targeted non-military entity. But IMO, Russia can get fucked. I am not sure if they shared the data with anyone, or kept it to themselves, but no loss.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

For sure they use it for war purposes.

They sure as fuck aren't using it for climate research. They dgaf about climate.

Ed: hack was maybe part of a bigger defense strike: https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/01/27/ukrainian-cyberattacks-cripple-russian-defense-contractor-weather-center/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The Russian Federation actually does give a fuck about climate... They want to make global warming worse. They get to sell more gas, they get more arable land up north, and they open up shipping routes in the Arctic. Putin is Captain Planet levels of evil, fr.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This has "they deserved it" energy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Yes, they did

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Following that logic, civilians should be fair game because "Russia can get fucked".

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ukrainian civilians are fair game to the Russian military, so...

[–] Scubus 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Israel 2 electric boogaloo

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Yeah Russian citizens supporting Putler can eat dick and die, but it's not Ukraine's right to go after them

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I love how we're equating loss of data to loss of human life.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 8 months ago (2 children)

They’d be morons if they didn’t back up important data off site.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Have you ever seen any academic IT systems? They are all underfunded ans run by grad students.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Even worse, they are often a case of accretion by generations of grad students and undergrads.

E.g. a university was redoing how it hosted student club websites. When it eventually killed the old hosting, 1 site stayed working. It was eventually tracked down to a little mini pc mounted above the false ceiling. It had been plodding away for 20 odd years, most of that without any maintenance at all.

[–] vaultdweller013 2 points 8 months ago

Are we sure universities arent run by the cult Mechanicus?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

and here we have underfunded science with lots of russian corruption on top

real chance of backup system money disappearing in pockets...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

You’re insulting grad students. ;) But yea, I imagine it is very underfunded!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Soviets are morons, so they didnt.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Someone’s gonna fall off a balcony for this then.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago

The only reasonable excuse for attacking this data was that it helped the Russian war effort. Eg. flying in supplies, planning offensives, missile and UAV flight planning, etc.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Planeta is a state research center using space satellite data and ground sources like radars and stations to provide information and accurate predictions about weather, climate, natural disasters, extreme phenomena, and volcanic monitoring.

That’s just fucking stupid of them.

This massive volume of information would be difficult and costly to store in backups, so if Ukraine's claims are true, this is a catastrophic attack on Planeta.

A 45tb tape would cost me a consumer $98, 45 of them would be 2pb and cost a whopping $4,320, it would surely be even cheaper for a bulk order at non-consumer costs. Hardly difficult or costly.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

Technically with 45tb they mean "45tb of highly compressible text", actually is 18tb.

And raw images aren't compressible

With a catch like this the genius marketing could call them "100 petabyte tapes" (only if you store zero-filled files)

So it needs more tapes and the drive itself is also very expensive, around $10k, and it's not something that a Russian government entity can access easily today, but needs to be bought from grey market resellers with higher markup.

Then needs a dedicated server for that, a person (or a robotic arm) that changes the tapes every few hours, temperature controlled off-site storage...

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

1024 Terabytes = 1 Petabyte

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago

1000 Terabytes (TB) = 1 Petabyte (PB).

Or: 1024 Tebibytes (TiB) = 1 Pebibyte (PiB)

Or: 1024 Terabytes (TB) = 1.024 Petabytes (PB)

Or: 1024 Terabytes (TB) = 1 Petabyte (TB), 24 Terabytes (TB)

But: 1024 Terabytes (TB) != 1 Petabyte (PB)

[–] mindbleach 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, not thrilled about years of space research getting wiped, no matter who's doing it to whom.

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