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Germany's Constitutional Court ruled on Tuesday that the extreme right-wing NPD should have its state subsidies withdrawn and its tax relief canceled for six years.

The case is to an extent symbolic, as the Nationalist Democratic Party of Germany (NPD), now known as "Die Heimat" (The Homeland), has not been receiving subsidies in recent times after failing to obtain enough votes in elections. However, it still benefits from tax relief measures.

The court's ruling could well play a role in current deliberations over whether similar measures could be taken against the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party.

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[–] [email protected] 139 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

The video coming out of Germany is unreal. They put a million people in the streets. All because the AfD talked about mass deportations, something the Trumpers in the US freely talk about. Much respect for them.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Just goes to show everyone how insanely disproportionate online noise is compared to how real people IRL feel. You'd be forgiven in thinking that all Germans hate immigrants based on discussions you see online. With the rise of braindead people supporting hardcore right wing politicians, it's nice to see that it's still a minority of people.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I expect AI is going to multiply certain online sentiments by thousands soon.

It could be good. If they push it hard enough, it may just be common knowledge that online sentiment is manipulative bullshit.

Currently I think there's still enough genuine interaction to drown out most of the troll farms, but I don't expect that to last much longer. The troll farms will be grinding anyway as it gets closer to the US election. We'll see how much AI they'll have implemented between now and October.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Here's an idea: it doesn't matter whether it is AI generated or written by a person, some speech is harmful no matter who writes it.

That's why it's illegal to make certain salutes in Germany, regardless of whether you're being serious or not. Same thing with yelling about having a bomb at the airport. If you're serious, you're a terrorist. If you're joking, you're just a dumb terrorist. Either way causes unnecessary stress.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

How much could Russia afford this time around? Let's find out in round three of Russo-American Psy-Op Games!

"If at first your soft coup fails, just try and try again four years later, isn't that so?"

"Right you are Ken!"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I expect China will be better at it this time around, though I can't say how much they care to influence this election. It's clear what Russia wants.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A friend sent me some audio from the scene.

It was nice to hear Germans chanting "Nazis Raus!". If only Americans had the same convictions.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

What does that translate to, out of curiosity? Never Nazis?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Nazis out [of the country/ the government/ whatever]

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Thank you <3

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

It feels more like a request to bystanders than the Nazis themselfes to me. More like a "throw them out" than a "leave"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The other poster is dead on right, but to build a bit of context on the somewhat morbid poetry of it all, "Juden Raus!" was not an uncommon chant of the NSDAP rallies of the 30's and 40's.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It's a reaction to neonazis shouting "Ausländer raus" since the 80s. It's a direct answer to their slogans, not something that is unconsidered.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Today, it makes more sense than ever. There was the critique answer "Yeah, but you cannot deport a Nazi, because he's a German citizen!".

Now that the Nazis were busy making plans how to deport millions of German citizens ...

Not saying we should, at least for the sake of the receiving country.

;-]

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"No but they can be rounded up and shot, this much has been proven already."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Should have been thorough with it the last time. Would have saved us much trouble.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I think US will be happy to receive them

[–] [email protected] 56 points 7 months ago

Now do it for the AfD

[–] [email protected] 38 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Damn, I thought they stripped financing of the AfD

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Sure, I'll take no financing for both. Also, defiance Der III. Weg as well pls

[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Fun fact: there was an attempt to ban the NPD years ago, but it was deemed unnecessary because they never got enough votes to be a serious threat to democracy.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 7 months ago

I assume that most of the former NPD members have found a new home with the AfD.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Much funnier was the first try, they stoped the attempt because the NPD leadership mainly consisted of people working for the intelligence agency.

[–] RedstoneValley 9 points 7 months ago

Deutsche Gründlichkeit at work. They not only infiltrate the party but take it over completely, up to the point where they do such a good job in pretending to be nazis that they become nazis themselves. 💯

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

"Maybe we should prescribe antibiotics for this blood infection?"

"Nah, it's not bad enough yet. Just tell them to go home and rest, and we'll see them in a few months."

[–] mindbleach 2 points 7 months ago

Always a stupid excuse, because by the time they can threaten democracy, hey guess what, they're threatening your democracy.

Prevention is safer and easier.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Germany's Constitutional Court ruled on Tuesday that the extreme right-wing NPD should have its state subsidies withdrawn and its tax relief canceled for six years.

The case is to an extent symbolic, as the Nationalist Democratic Party of Germany (NPD), now known as "Die Heimat" (The Homeland), has not been receiving subsidies in recent times after failing to obtain enough votes in elections.

The court's ruling could well play a role in current deliberations over whether similar measures could be taken against the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party.

The president of the lower house of parliament, or Bundestag, Bärbel Bas, said that the case against the NPD/Die Heimat was "of great political importance," as it had never been explicable to the general populace why anti-state parties should receive taxpayers' money.

The judges ruled on whether Die Heimat's agenda was sufficiently anticonstitutional to warrant the cancelation of the state support generally granted to political parties.

Under German law, parties that are found to be guilty of attempts to undermine the constitutional, democratic order can have subsidies withdrawn for up to six years in the first instance.


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[–] Sculptor9157 4 points 7 months ago

Is this the "debanking" Trump warned us about?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why were they even subsidized

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Because parties which gain a certain percentage of the vote (I think 0.5 - 1%, depending on the state) receive money to reduce their dependency on private sponsors.