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[โ€“] [email protected] 54 points 8 months ago (1 children)

People before 423 bc

๐Ÿ‘

[โ€“] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

originally meant to threaten violent sexual penetration

Rougher times back then.

[โ€“] [email protected] 45 points 8 months ago (3 children)

what did you think "fuck you" actually meant

[โ€“] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not a native speaker but always took it as short form for "go fuck yourself", not "I will fuck you".

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Well, even if its "go fuck yourself", we don't mean in a gentle and loving way.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Speaking only for myself, I don't think I've ever intended "fuck you" to mean "I am literally going to fuck you violently with my penis." More like, "I strongly disapprove of your actions and perhaps even your character (but not enough to rape you, of course, that should go without saying)."

[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Bummer, I thought you were into me.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Maybe you just didnโ€™t piss him off enough, try harder

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Bummer,

And that's another thing: I don't love that nickname.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago
[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I feel like in 400BCE it didn't go without saying.

[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Was it used defensively by cavemen?

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't think we had caveman 2500 years ago

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think we have many cavemen nowadays, so there were probably many 2500 years ago.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Fair enough

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Hard to believe that in 500 years a 2500 year old hand gesture will change meaning.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

To add to this I read years ago how the English phase "fuck you" got associated with the gesture. It comes The Hundred Years War between Britian and France and was originally "Pluck You!" but changed over time.

This was the first search result and shares the story well: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=PLUCK%20YOU