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[–] [email protected] 89 points 7 months ago (10 children)

How many more years of these news stories do I have to read before we actually do something about this?

I'm so fucking sick of this happening constantly.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The sad thing is we’ll keep reading stories like this until we die. I can’t see the light at the end of the tunnel and I’m tired of being that guy talking about this issue.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

we die

Or they do. This level of wealth inequality is a new phenomenon, and it is already showing how great it goes, with fascism and other fringe ideologies on the rise.

The chance that Trump or a similar idiot being elected and turning dictator is a possibility in the US is a direct consequence of these fuckwits gutting society itself. It is very well possible that these guys will either become sock puppets of a Trump-like figure, and keep some of their wealth in exchange for losing all of their power, or commit grisly murder-suicides of their whole family in droves like in Russia.

They either don't see or don't care that they are cutting down the branch that they (and everyone else) are sitting on.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We have to stop voting for rich or wanna-be-rich business people. It's the only way. Combined votes for the best of the worst to eliminate the tyrants, then vote out the wealth focused. Can't believe that's the situation we are in.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Voting alone will not get us out of this situation. Maybe implementing rank choice of voting might do it. I just don't see good solutions because the politicians were all about sold anyway it doesn't matter which one gets voted in, voters never get the final say.

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 7 months ago (4 children)

The economy is a fucking joke.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago

always has been

[–] prole 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And yet the majority of Trump voters will cite it as the reason they're voting for him.

People are unredeemingly stupid.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

It's not irrational to depend on the economy (as defined by news media) because a good economy does mean a lot of good things for even the lowest level workers. The problem is a good economy means the rich get richer and a bad economy means poor people lose their jobs. There is no consequence for the rich except maybe having to reorganize their investments and lose a marginal amount of their wealth. Whereas in comparison poor people can end up on the streets.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's put very simply here:

The world’s five richest men have more than doubled their fortunes to $869bn (£681.5bn) since 2020, while the world’s poorest 60% – almost 5 billion people – have lost money.

... the world’s billionaires were $3.3tn (£2.6tn) richer than in 2020, and their wealth had grown three times faster than the rate of inflation.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Divided you beg - the Republican way. United you bargain - the Democrats way. Keep voting Republican and keep making the rich richer.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It will trickle down any moment now. Any moment.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Something d-o-o economics. Voo-doo economics.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 7 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 35 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This is such a good visualization of big numbers and big bank accounts.

It's also a good way to really see the bull shit argument that it's unfair to tax the wealthy at a higher rate. Even if they get taxed at 90% (which I don't think will happen in my lifetime) they still will have enough money for them and their decedents to live a lavish lifestyle. And that extra money could really make America into the country that it pretends to be.

[–] prole 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Also, the "taxed at 90%" is a red herring too, since that's not how progressive tax brackets work. Nobody's effective tax rate would be close to 90%, even if we raised the top marginal rate to nearly 100%.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

If tax brackets were sensibly set, with a >90% rate for the top bracket, these people would still be very wealthy but the amount given to tax would be almost all of their wealth, since the highest tax bracket would kick in just a few pixels into the giant boxes on that diagram. And there would be nothing wrong with that.

[–] prole 4 points 7 months ago

Right. If they were sensible. But I'm OK with taking it one step at a time and ease into it so it doesn't immediately get shut down.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This is from 2021 so remember that the biggest boxes there need to be twice as big now. Your box, however, is the same size or smaller.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

That makes me infurious rex.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Taxes or guillotines. Pick one.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago

Guillotines and then tax the next ones.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Patches 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Because if we have to break out the guillotine then the redistribution is gonna happen a lot faster than taxes...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It would just go to their next of kin. You'd have to set up a guillotine slaughter house with a conveyor belt

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

I fail to see any problem with this.

kicks French Revolution under the rug

[–] [email protected] 50 points 7 months ago (1 children)

People think for some reason working themselves to death will move them upwards. Fuck this stupid system.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What about those that are being forcefully coerced into doing so? I’m broke, and I’ll be working until the day I die, but it sure as hell isn’t because I want to.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

That is understandable. I meant mostly people who say you can grind your way out of poverty through hardwork. Like work-life balance isn't important.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I’m sure electing a billionaire will fix things right up in the US.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago

No actual billionaires are in the election.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How about we stop calling it their fucking money. It's inconceivable that someone can look at what has got to be at least 50% of all wealth ever made by humankind and say, "this is mine and just mine". That isn't what sane rational people think

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Having that amount of money makes you lose all rational thinking my dude.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago

fuck capitalism

[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Elon Musk, Bernard Arnault, Jeff Bezos, Larry Ellison and Mark Zuckerberg

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Coincidentally, those same 5 are 2024's "who's who of sociopathic shitheads", a title they've earned with lifetimes of dedication to the craft

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Wait Musk is still such a strong first place? I thought with twitter bombing, people starting to dislike Tesla, general weird behavior, he was losing quite a bit? I'm probably way out of touch but isn't someone catching uo to him?

[–] Patches 56 points 7 months ago (2 children)

That's the neat part. When you're rich you can make as many mistakes as you want, and you'll still be rich.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

Yep money keeps making money

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lost more money than anyone ever has ever and is still the richest human alive. Howzat for fucked

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Tesla shares constitute something like 70% of Elon's total fortune. Twitter is overall not that relevant for his big picture wealth, and weird behavior even less so.

At the moment Tesla's stock price is in decline because of competition from China and the overall EV market not growing as fast, so Bezos or somebody else could indeed overtake Musk in the near term. But this could easily change again next month, the stock market is fickle.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It so cool that you can buy your way into an existing company that already had talent and an idea, and then become among the richest people in the world...

Wait sorry, Hard Work™©® yeah... That's what he did... Hard Work...

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Rich assets grow exponentially. They will exceed government budgets if they haven't yet. Then, they will have far bigger budget than governments.

Maybe the world will all become North Korea.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (3 children)

You guys ready to eat em yet?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

space billionaires. well defined, much more fun.

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