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And I know we're mostly atheists here, but please keep the theological discussion to a minimum and appreciate the lighthearted hypothetical scenario for what it is.

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[-] [email protected] 95 points 6 months ago

The 10 commandments divide into two sections. Rules for the relation between people and God and rules for the relation between people and other people. 5 more would probably setup a third section. Like rules for the relation between people and nature or rules for one’s relation to oneself.

  1. Forgive your brother who has wronged you as you would want him to forgive your own transgressions.

  2. Honor creation and take only what you need from the mountains, streams, woodlands, and valleys.

  3. Respect the creatures of the earth as your brothers in creation.

  4. Avoid excesses and live humbly

  5. Love yourself for you were created in My image

[-] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago
  1. Love yourself for you were created in My image
  1. But not like that.
  2. No, not like that either...
  3. Listen you little shit, if I catch you doing that again I'll come down from this cloud and seduce your wife as a swan.
[-] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago
  1. Ignore copyright laws that haven't been invented yet and don't tell Zeus...
[-] darkstar 11 points 6 months ago

This is really good actually

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[-] [email protected] 88 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I might as well go first:

Thou shalt seed what you download (You'll understand in a few thousand years)

[-] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago
[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

That’s why I seed my neighbour’s wife.

[-] [email protected] 74 points 6 months ago

Thou shalt not push to prod on Fridays

[-] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago

And the Lord said unto Moses: If thou pushest thy change, and the site goeth down, thou shalt roll back thy push. Thou shalt roll back first, even if thou knowest not the root cause. Thus may your days be long and prosperous on the earth.

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[-] [email protected] 57 points 6 months ago
  • Be excellent to each other
  • Party on, dudes
[-] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

I would like to emphasize the gender neutral nature of "dudes" in this context.

[-] [email protected] 46 points 6 months ago

"No slavery", "no genocide", "no slavery", "no genocide", and "seriously, no slavery or genocide".

[-] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Considering that early Jewish writings directly contain laws about the treatment of slaves, "no slavery" was probably not on the list.

As for Genocide, Yahweh commanded Saul through Samuel:

And Samuel said to Saul, "The Lord sent me to anoint you to be king over His people, over Israel; and now hearken to the voice of the words of the Lord.
...
Now, go, and you shall smite Amalek, and you shall utterly destroy all that is his, and you shall not have pity on him: and you shall slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

And then Yahweh threw a hissy fit when Saul showed some mercy. Turns out that Yahweh was is a dick, according to his own believers' writings.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

So you’re saying the Bible specifically recommends slaying ass?

“Honey, the Bible says I gotta go slay ass! I know I promised those days were behind me,, but God wants me to do it! Completely off topic, how’s your sister? She still single?”

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

"seriously, no slavery or genocide"

"So, what God is really saying is that it's ok if we do BOTH..."

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[-] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago

"Thou shalt not accidentally drop and break one of these three tablets"

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[-] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago

Thou shalt not fuck kids. They definitely meant for that to be in there, right? Guys...?

[-] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

what was that? gay people are sinners? got it.

/s

disclaimer

this is about the bible verse about laying with a boy (or something). not homophobic

[-] smuuthbrane 30 points 6 months ago

Returneth thy cart.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago

Thou shalt not be cruel

Thou shalt not oppress your fellow man

Thou shalt not put yourself before your brethren

Thou shalt not think only of yourself

Thou shalt not live in a disordered home, nor shall you allow the cities you live in to become disorderly due to your own lack of action

[-] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The five missing ones are:

  1. Acknowledge the central point.
  2. Thou shalt not soapbox.
  3. Thou shalt not decontextualise what others say.
  4. Thou shalt not claim intentions to defend thine or someone else's actions.
  5. Thou shalt not convey "I disagree" through feigned lack of understanding.

Bonus: the original version of the 8th was

  1. Thou shalt not claim with certainty things that you do not know for certain.

The current 8th (Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour) is a forgery. Some assumer got called out over and over because of the older 8th, since he really liked to make shit up, so he restricted it into near uselessness. Source: I'm Lucifer, I know it. :^)

[-] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Your version of the 8th would literally undo all religion (and a bit of science).

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Your version of the 8th would literally undo all religion

It would undo the myths, I think. Morality and religious practices might survive depending on how much they rely on said myths.

and a bit of science

It would perhaps demote a lot of theories back to hypotheses, but that's actually good IMO. A good scientist should embrace the doubt and treat it as a respectable enemy, not hide from it like a catfish in the mud.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago
  1. Don't be evil.

  2. Just do it.

  3. Make, your dreams, come true.

  4. [This one can't be translated usefully into any modern language.]

  5. For everything else, there's Mastercard.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

For everything else, there's Mastercard.

Finally someone taking the question seriously

[-] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

Thou who smelt it, thine own self dealt it.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

Thall shalt not run for political office and then switch sides halfway through.

Thall shalt not allow predators to sell underage girls to celebrities.

Thall shalt not incite a coup at your government headquarters

Thall shalt not give so many fucks about the arrangement of other people genitals or what they do with them.

Thall shalt not fuck with abortion laws or start repealing other progressive laws that have been in place for decades

[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Thall shalt not allow predators to sell underage girls to celebrities.

This one gives too much room for loopholes.

Thall shalt not sell, trade, or in any way own people.

This one seems better, it would also be better since it would apply not just now but also thousands (or hundreds, I don't know when it happened) of years ago.

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

There literally was another one if Idan Dershowitz's theory that the Shapira Scroll was legit is true.

In that document (the translation is in his book The Valediction of Moses: A Proto-Biblical Book (2021)), there's effectively an 11th commandment of "thou shalt not hate your brother in your heart."

In general, a number of the sayings found across both Deuteronomy and Leviticus would seem like good candidates, such as "love your neighbor as yourself" and "love the foreigner among you as yourself."

A lot of the modern interpretation is that the former refers to your literal personal home neighbors, but it makes more sense for an emergent pastoral community to be in reference to political neighbors like the Canaanites and Philistines.

Which we are now realizing thanks to archeology that the early Israelites cohabitated and were at peace with, in spite of the anachronistic stories in the Bible about it, such as the book of Joshua which is completely at odds with any archeological picture of history. Early Israelite theomorphic names in graveyards were even around 30% 'Baal' based. So the whole "hate and kill your neighbors that are different from you" seems like it was a later addition. To be fair, as likely was the monotheism.

In general, the story of Moses breaking the first set of tablets in response to the golden calf worship is sus as fuck. It mirrors the alleged reforms of Josiah centuries later where he destroyed the golden calves at Bethel and Dan while getting rid of the old laws and instituting new ones. So much more likely that it was a later addition to an earlier folk narrative being shaped to support contemporary major religious reforms.

My personal pick for a good candidate comes from a line in an 8th century BCE bilingual tablet from the group that the lead excavator of Tel Dan now thinks was the lost tribe of Dan up in Adana Turkey, the Denyen sea peoples. Their king, in discussing how he improved his kingdom over the past, used as a measuring stick the fact that women could now walk home alone feeling safe.

So "Thou shalt create and foster a society where women can walk home alone at night feeling safe" seems like it would do a lot of heavy lifting to improve the current set of commandments significantly.

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago
  • Do not treat people or animals as things
  • Consent first from others, especially your family
  • The Earth and it's creatures should be shepherded and guarded, not exploited
  • No gods, no kings, no rulers - instead have empathy, sharing, and collaboration
  • It's round you nimrods, because that's how gravity works
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[-] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

One saying slavery shouldn’t happen would be nice.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

Don't take the Bible too literally

[-] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

They're on the prop from Mel Brooks' History of the World Part I

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

Thou shall not leave the toilet lid open after used.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

tit for tat plus 10% extra forgiveness is the most successful strategy in life and politics of every kind

god is found in higher furnace temperatures filled with colorful rocks

always separate how you feel from what you can prove with evidence that is accepted as truth by 100 persons from a dozen foreign lands

without exception, only con artists use unclear and indirect language that is subject to interpretation

a metal screw can be used in a device to make a more accurate metal screw, repeat this process many times

[-] ElBarto 11 points 6 months ago

Final line:

Now remember, these are just guidelines, you don't have to take them too seriously, have some fun with them, that's why I made you.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Thou shall not attempt to make a business out of this using the medium of broadcast images and shouting.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Thou shalt not stalk thine ex's media feed and scribe words inspired by Bacchus

[-] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Thou shall not leave a shitstreak in the bowl, if you do so use the brush before leaving.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

IIRC--and its been a long time since I've bothered reading the bible--what happened is that Moses got one set of commandments from god, came down from the mountain, sand saw the Israelites worshiping a gold cow. He got mad, broke the tablets the laws were on, and then disposed of the Israelites that were engaging in idolatry. Then he went back up the mountain and got the rules we call the ten commandments.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago
  1. Pick any three of the above.
[-] zeusbottom 8 points 6 months ago

Thou shalt not partake of decaf

Thou shalt not have no idea

Thou shalt always go for greatness

Thou shalt not commit adulthood

Thou shalt not suppress flatulence

ALL

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Thou shalt not be a poo poo head

Thou shalt not hold unbelievers to the moral standards thou agreedest to and that only applyeth to thee

Thou shalt not giveth a shitteth about shitteth that is not thine own

[-] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

You shall not establish theocracies or institutionalize beliefs.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

The other tablet only had one commandment, chiseled extra large for emphasis:

Above all else, do no harm.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
  1. [my actual name here] is your lord, savior, and 4th form of god, and shall be treated as such.
  2. Sinning is the 12th form of liberalism
  3. Join an org (mine, preferrably)
  4. There can be no peace so long as hunger and want are found among millions of the working people and the few, who make up the employing class, have all the good things of life.
  5. Thou shalt seed more than thou downloads, unless thou ist [my actual name here].
[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Thou Shalt Not Tolerate Prejudice ( "Satan", oft translated by scholars as "Accuser", which is how everyone can know that it means prejudice: prejudice's WHOLE action is accusing! ) instead of considered-reason.

Thou Shalt Not Tolerate Ideology-Addiction, but will displace it with considered-reason, breaking it from authority.

Thou Shalt Not Forget Silliness, who is the proper antidote to self-importance.

Thou Shalt Not Ever Mistake Propaganda for Journalism, nor tolerate propaganda's establishment.

Thou Shalt Not Tolerate Lobbying/Bribery or any other corruption of governing.

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