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[–] [email protected] 93 points 8 months ago (3 children)

This is extremely vague with zero context.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This also works as a corporate excuse to do whatever the hell they want to a community and the environment.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

This is the huge problem with the optics of Libertarianism as a whole. Thats why Liberal Progressive is a more common term because the right wing co-opts libertarian arguments in a pro-corporate way.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

DAMNIT THIS IS MERIKA I SHOULD HAVE A MISSILE LAUNCHER ON THE FRONT YARD BEN WASHINGTON WROTE IT IN THE CONSTITUTION

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Don't forget James Hancock, Thomas Madison, and John Jefferson!

[–] gravitas_deficiency 6 points 8 months ago

Dude, I’m pretty sure it’s Steve Madison.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

founding randos

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I'm quite sure it was George Jefferson...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Laws against victimless crimes come to mind.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Normal people have their behavior regulated by family, partners, and work. It's only the ownership class and psychopaths who worry about being reined in by the government. Libertarians have spiders in their brains.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Miscegny, abortion, sodomy, war on drugs...

There's plenty of things the government has (and it's trying to have) blocked that "normal" people should worry about

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Have you ever noticed the people who don't want lead in the gasoline are not the same people who are trying to ban abortion?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Regulations on business and production of resources don't infringe on my personal liberties.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Some states making it illegal to be homeless. I'm sure the 14th amendment won't be used for nefarious purposes... /s

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hey this is the "I have nothing to hide" argument for privacy. I think wanting people to have freedom from suspicion by the government is based. You're not gonna find me agreeing with any right wing "libertarian" positions like low taxes. My libertarianism is more about... Policing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I agree. I've been listening to behind the bastards a lot, and the host is basically a pretty radical dude in favor of maximizing personal and civic freedoms and social safety nets.

At this point I feel like we should be called the neo-libroanarchists or something. It seems like every political faction in the US is trying to restrict something just because.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

The right wing think tanks have a deliberate strategy of stealing leftist words.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It’s only the ownership class and psychopaths who worry about being reined in by the government.

I guess you forgot the badge-wearing fascists with itchy trigger fingers stalking your neck of the woods with the express purpose of visiting violence upon you if you step out of line.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Who uses the badge wearing fascists to control you? The ownership class. Guess who is the ownership class? Not you and I.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Username applies.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Justification is easy. Damn near no one does anything they don't feel is justified. You may not agree with it, but that doesn't really matter, because the right people will.

A lot of the most evil shit in history was done by people who felt completely justified in doing it.

Justification is a stupidly low bar.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You're missing the point. We don't need to justify to the government why we need to do anything. The government needs to justify to us why it should be prohibited. Feeling justified in your own actions doesn't come into it.

As for "the most evil shit in history", it should be extremely easy for the government to justify prohibiting it.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago

US Govt: Y'all shoot a lot of people. Let's slow this down a bit. Some people: how about I shoot you!?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago

Take cannabis for instance. They've 'justified' why it has been illegal, it's just all the reasons were manipulated science and moral bullshit.

[–] profoundninja 23 points 8 months ago (3 children)

This is deep. I'm 14 though fyi.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago

The government does justify its prohibitions.

They're just sometimes good justifications (like protecting drinking water supplies) or shitty justifications (like staying in power with Gerrymandering).

Sometimes it's even as weak as "putting forward laws Senator John looks like he's doing something (so he can stay visible and get reelected. Not about power, but just keeping a cushy job)"

But there's always a justification.

This is stupid.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (7 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (7 children)

Tolerance is just an extension of the social contract. Intolerant people are actively violating the social contract and, as such, are not eligible for the benefits such a contract provides. This has been settled law for millennia. Live and let live... or else.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Meh, I'm not a Nazi so no offense taken.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's kind of like pest control. I don't hate termites. I just can't have them tearing up my home, so they have to be exterminated.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

How is this relevant to the post

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (9 children)

You can't go running around with feces all over your body and hug strangers, OP, it's not hygienic.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Boom. Justification. OP's request is satisfied.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Isn't it inherently cringe to claim your own things based?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Justifications are easy, though.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

See also: the ninth amendment.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Uhhhh... isnt this how it already works?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

I will do all that I can to crumple a world where "if it is not required it is forbidden" exists; this I swear to you all.

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