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[–] [email protected] 109 points 8 months ago (6 children)

I absolutely loved mythbusters, but honestly I think it ran it's course. They were kind of running out of things to test towards the end.

Also search for Streamlined Mythbusters - they're fan-edits that remove fluff (lots of fluff in the later seasons) and rearranges the shows so each myth is played straight through before going to the next myth in the episode; instead of showing pieces of 3 different myths at a time bouncing between them.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago

I've tried to rewatch the shows but the TV format mostly just kills it for me now. Thanks that sounds perfect for modern audiences tastes.

[–] Zipitydew 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I feel like there were tons of movie related options had they gone back that direction. Easily a whole season's worth of action hero stunts they could break down.

Just one episode could be on Commando. Schwarzenegger ripping the seat out of a car, or killing a guy with a thrown saw blade, or impaling another guy with a thrown pipe. Would be interesting to have seen them figure out the actual force requirements.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

A thrown pipe through a chainmail vest, through a dude, and out the other side. We gotta be historically accurate

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

the only reason they ran out of ideas back then is because social media wasn't as big yet.

in the world of TikTok they'd never run out.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I agree. And it's not like they didn't try to do new shows after the original Mythbusters ended.

A lot of the success also came down to the likability of the hosts, and how the show was presented.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Mythbusters is one of my favorite series of all time, but for the love of God, please don't revive it

[–] [email protected] 51 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Jman prob wouldn't come back anyway.

Savage has a YouTube channel if anyone is feeling nostalgic. He takes questions about making and mythbusters. Sometimes it's fun to hear him reminisce. I personally like his new builds more than when he's looking back into the past.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I don't think any amount of money in the world could bring Jamie back to a revival.

I believe Adam's already said he's no longer interested in filming television.

Plus, Grant has since passed away, Kari is a big oil sell-out, and Tory has been floundering around on Amazon's streaming service for a while now

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yeah it's been sad seeing some influential people go into really questionable areas. I think reddit shit a brick when Aubrey Plaza went shilling for milk producers of America.

Terry Crews did a commercial for Amazon, right around the time that unionization was lifting off.

I get that you got to eat but these people aren't without choices.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Being charitable, their agents are typically the ones that secure those deals, and they, being a bit more affluent and marginally more privileged than the rest of America, may not think to push back very hard on the jobs their agents line up for them. And of course their agents may even go as far as to try and convince them it's not a big deal.

It doesn't excuse it, but I also am willing to let it slide provided it doesn't happen routinely after they've been called out.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Kari is a big oil sell-out,

I watched the video and a behind the scenes how an off shore rig works isn't much of a sell out. Showing the behind the scenes complexity of drilling makes solar even more appealing.

Mythbusters regularly featured weapons but they weren't shilling for the US Military Industrial Complex.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

The U-2 Bomber episode was a little shilling, there wasn't even a myth. But what were they gonna do, not take a cool ass ride to the edge of space?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

No, but getting a respected "science person" to go on camera and repeat their clean-sounding PR "Deepwater Energy" name is just one of the ways that Big Oil legitimizes their actions to the public, and I'd have hoped someone who spent a decade plus in both the entertainment and soft-science industries could've seen through it. It would be like if Bill Nye or Neil DeGrasse Tyson made a multi-part webseries about Clean Coal.

Regardless, it wasn't the first time the MB cast was tricked into shilling for fossil fuels, but an episode about clean-burning diesel in 2009 is a lot less aggregious than an episode about underwater oil drilling in 2023, in my opinion.

Mythbusters regularly featured weapons but they weren't shilling for the US Military Industrial Complex.

Not the MIC, but I have no doubt that the NRA or other gun lobbyists helped produce those episodes.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Hearing that about Kari is super disappointing. I thought she would go into something like joining an advocacy group to fight against climate change. Anything but shilling for oil

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 8 months ago (29 children)
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[–] [email protected] 67 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago

It was so shocking, he was only 49 years old. aneurysms are crazy... :'(

[–] [email protected] 66 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Instilling the "Oh, I was wrong, THAT'S SO COOL" mindset in people is one of the best things science education can do.

And it translates to all walks of life.

There's so much misery in the world simply from people who know nothing convinced they know everything.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 8 months ago

“Remember kids, the only difference between screwing around and science is writing it down.” -Adam Savage

That single quote is the core of Mythbusters, and only the original Mythbuster team truly had that chemistry to pull it off on national television.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 8 months ago

RIP Grant, you are missed

[–] merc 32 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't think you could revive Mythbusters.

I don't think Adam and Jamie are at all interested in doing the show anymore. If it wasn't them, you'd have to re-cast, and it would be really hard to get that kind of chemistry, while also finding people with the right technical background for the show. The Build Team members were fun, but they couldn't do it, although they tried with projects like the White Rabbit project.

Plus, I think the world has moved on. There are plenty of YouTube channels where people build crazy things, or test myths, or whatever. But, that's in short, 5-10 minute videos. A full hour (well, 45 minutes) of reality TV is different. Also, they tested so many myths over the years, that the only ones left are TikTok trends or gossip or whatever. Not the kinds of beliefs that go back decades.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

the world has moved on

You say true, I say thankya, Gunslinger.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (4 children)

It was revived in 2017. I think that's all that needs to be said on the matter.

If you like this kind of content, there are loads of YouTube channels doing these kinds of 'experiments' they tend to be more specialised, but that's a good thing and they often interact with each other to share expertise.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Mythbusters is good just because of how down-to-Earth and raw it is.

They show the audience what they want to see. They ask the questions the audience wants asked. They give rationales that make sense, most of them.

It's a very human show, even if it requires a lot of science and engineering to make it work.

The producers did a fine job with it. I'm glad it's not over-edited or following a checklist of what a show needs to be in order to be successful.

Its format and presentation fit the content like a glove.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

Love it. RIP Grant.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yeeeeah, no, that's weird. Discovery rebooting it with different people would almost certainly suck, if you just want to hang out with that sort of engineery-makery-SFXy content there's tons of ways to do it now and Savage is a successful youtuber in that space. Pair it with Imahara's hearbreaking passing and that just sounds all kinds of depressing.

I'd sure love it if Discovery wasn't actively burying the old episodes, though. That'd be nice.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (3 children)

See, this is why I don't like debunking shows in general, and I find the skeptic movement to be overrated and simply draws less criticism that it deserves.

MythBusters avoided the one mistake that all debunkers make. First off, they didn't come off as thinking that they were smarter than anyone else, they don't mock people for believing false information, and they never bring religion into it.

They just talked about whatever misconception, then they tested to see if it worked or not

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

Mythbusters is the reason I went into STEM. On year my parents even bought me tickets to see the tour, as a Christmas present. I also still watch Adam's YouTube channel weekly (Tested).

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Naah, they'd never recapture the magic. Bring back similar shows like junkyard wars and battlebots.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Battle bots is still going on. They have new seasons every year. There is a large break in between for rebuilds and try outs.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I feel we could all use that way of thinking like if I'm right yay I'm a smart boi and if I'm wrong I'm smarter now

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The elephants and mice episode is also my favorite non-explosion myth. I can't believe it's actually true.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Adam Savages one day builds are relly neat videos about building props and other things and Adam is such a nice person to listen to IMO

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

"Holy shit, we were wrong! Oh my god! This is great! We were so wrong!"

This is the essence of science. Being wrong is exciting because it means that you're on to something. The way scientific theories are made is by challenging what you believe -- trying to prove your idea wrong. If you repeatedly can't prove it wrong then you're probably approaching something that is true which continually adds to the certainty that you're onto something. That's what the sigma certainty means in scientific discoveries. It refers to the possible margin of error in a discovery.

The sigma certainty is essentially, 1 sigma is about 85% certain - or a 1 in 7 chance you're wrong, 2 sigma is about 97.75% certainty - or a 1 in 45 chance you're wrong, 3 sigma is about 99.98% certain - or about 1 in 5000 chance of being wrong, etc. It depends on which scientific field you're in as to which level of sigma is considered enough for something to officially become an accepted theory, in Astronomy a 6 sigma is where the line is drawn which is about 1 in 500 million chance of being wrong (~99.9999998% certain).

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