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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They should have the players who received medical treatment taken off for 5 minutes as well , might cut down the amount of fake injuries.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Immediately no

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I like the idea of a sin bin. Use it for dives, fake fighting and all that sort of crap. Swearing at the ref.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is a good idea to attempt to change the culture in football. Punishments for several pretty shitty things are too lax, so players aren't really disincentivized from doing them. This could help.

But, of course, it depends on good implementation...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Just enforce the rules we have now consistently. Lets work out whats working by following the rules first?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Now do it for players faking injury. 10 mins off to be properly assessed for your clearly very serious injury that makes a grown man roll around on the floor screaming.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It sounds like a good idea but it would be terrible for the safety of players. Yes they are faking sometimes but sometimes there are real injuries. If you put that rules, players will try to stay on the pitch and play through even if they are injured and that increases the risk of aggravating the injury.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

tf is a 10 minute sin bin? are they sitting out for 10 minutes and the opposing team has a bit of a power play like hockey? or is it like they have 10 minutes where if they commit another foul they will be sent off? i don’t watch rugby enough to follow

edit: so it’s like a hickey power play. this is dumb. stop changing the game

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don’t see what the point of this is, we already have a punishment for cynical fouls and if you’re team does it repeatedly it should be a red card eventually. All I see this doing is trans forfeiting a player for ten minutes to stop breaks late in the game.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Excellent news, hope it works - dissent against refs is becoming appalling and tactical fouling is cheating and needs to be punished properly

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

So it’s hockey now is it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This reads like an April fools headline ffs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

A chance for more ‘subjective’ and inconsistent calls.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

In GAA we brought in the black card for cynical fouls. Its actually a pretty good addition

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If they do this, they need to implement a mechanism whereby incorrect yellow cards can be rescinded.
Something along the lines of the tennis appeal system.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (12 children)

This will just result in more people crying about subjective fouls - why did that tackle get an orange card but this tackle didn't?.

Adding even more subjectivity into the game for fans to cry about isn't the answer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A sin bin could be great, but not with the rules written as they currently are.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

while there may be some inconsistency players will soon twig and stop doing certain fouls.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

i think a big issue with the subjective calls is how big swings they are. the difference between a yellow and a red is massive, so a call against your team feels really bad. This will just bridge the gap.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There’ll be helmets and pads before you know it. This all started with the tacit acceptance of the word ‘jersey’. IT’S A TOP, ALRIGHT? Shirt, at a push.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

honestly think it’s more important to have a non-penalty foul in the box before this

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I like the idea of this. We've all seen fouls that aren't quite reds but a yellow just doesn't seem enough.

But realistically this is a complicated solution to a tiny issue (those fouls happen maybe once every 5 games?).

Instead, the biggest impact will be people arguing why that foul was an orange but this foul only a yellow etc etc.

We need to be making rules simpler, this isn't the way forward.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is all we need. Football has been terrible since VAR was introduced. Only gonna get worse as they continue to meddle

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How about just be better at consistency in calling yellows, better training on VAR intervention, and accepting criticism when calls go wrong…?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. No. No.

The game is fine the way it is. Start messing with it and adding rules and it will turn into American football.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

We don’t even have this in American football lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Refs are struggling with simple decisions as is, this will be a shitshow

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

For who - the refs? Then OK.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

let’s get rid of VAR, then we can try some other terrible ideas to ruin a sport that didn’t need fixed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I am a professional referee and this worries me little bit. The number of conversations we have about yellows and reds are insane. And even with just 2 cards, we do not have consensus on what a card should sometimes be.

Now you add an “orange” card and now these discussions become even more complicated. As someone who doesn’t like dissent as much as the other guy, I do not think this will be a good solution.

This is exactly like VAR. Great in concept, but it will not be executed correctly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Grassroots officials have been suceessfully implementing sin bins for C2 for the last three years - surely as a professional you can recognise dissent and sanction it appropriately?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Will be interesting to see sin bins and time-wasting making beautiful officiating together.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Just don’t.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

STOP RUINING THE GAME

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Great. I look forward to watching teams grind play to an absolute standstill until their man is back on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Awful idea that only adds more of a grey area between the red and yellow card. Can’t help but think that teams against city will also likely be likely to receive more of these decisions as to add to more corruption.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Just stop fucking with the game. Ever since VAR came in the amount of focus on officiating and checking for millimetres of difference has really taken a lot of magic out of it. This will only add more complexity which they can’t manage.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am solidly of the opinion that there shouldn't be such a thing as a good yellow card or a good foul. I can't think of any other sport where you can benefit from committing an infringement (potentially basketball).

Having a dangerous counter attack and being cut down 40 yards from goal isn't much use to the attacking team. A yellow card and a free kick 40 yards out is pretty useless.

I think either a sin-bin, or a free kick from the position of attacking teams choice is the best option.

Or to be really out there, an indirect free kick from the penalty spot? Defenders can get behind the ball too.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

We going to get riots at matches soon as crowds turn on ref’s entirely.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Is this is another one of Wengers stupid ideas along with his ‘it’s quite clearly offside but onside rule’. Just leave the fucking game alone it needs simplifying again and getting the officials to use their fucking common sense instead of giving more stuff that they can fuck up or get confused by.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

JUST LEAVE THE GAME ALONE

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think this will result in more naughty fouls since there’s now basically an additional buffer to being sent off

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Jesus Christ no. They can't even enforce the actual rules properly with the aid of slow motion replays and advanced technologies. This will be a disaster.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Good grief please stop the madness

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What about time wasting? Similar to a hockey penalty kill?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Helps the small teams against the 'big boys' happens most games. Big boy has the minnow penned in around their penalty box. Minnows get a rare chance to break, and they get hacked down.

Players like Rodri, Fabinho, Rice are gonna spend most of their season in the orange box.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Honestly just wish they’d bring back the 3 yellow = red rule.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Great. They should be back on by the time the next VAR decision has finally been made and no-one will notice they've been off.

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