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See, the joke is that modern conservatives would have supported the British control of the American colonies.
Which holds significant merit as during the war for independence, the most conservative families were Monarchists which insisted we return to British rule.
Several of those Monarchist families today make significant parts of the republican leadership.
Someone on that boat most certainly wouldn't say "just obey the kings laws" or "redcoat lives matter"
They were literally, at that moment, on the way to fight redcoats and hessians
That's the point boss. These people call themselves patriots and say what is in the word bubbles, the folks in the boat were actual patriots and wouldn't say that. They're literally pointing out the cognitive dissonance of what these idiots say and what they believe themselves to be.
But the "Patriots" of today could just directly be portrayed as confederates without any dissonant subcontext. Why sully a cool painting for a meme
It's a bullshit painting based largely on myth and misunderstanding of history. The dudes on that boat were ready to kill Washington and Washington had a simple choice, lead a fight or die by his men's hands and hope they don't have the wish to kill him afterwards or that there wouldn't be enough of them left to matter.
That's how running a revolution goes. You're always hanging on by a string
It doesn't change the fact that it's just early propaganda.
Well obviously but it's at least a depiction of a real event that has been dramatized
Whitewashed bud, not dramatized.
If I stub my toe and say my foot is ruined I'm being dramatic, if I say I'm a war hero when in reality my military career is mostly huge flops then I'm just a liar.
No one actually thinks the depicted crossing happened that way, with the top officer of the army leading the charge in a rowboat. My choice of the word dramatized implied it is fictional in it's specifics. Hell that's not even the Delaware depicted.
Washington was not a "war hero" per se, and indeed had some big losses. But to suggest his military career was "mostly huge flops" is silly. He is roundly regarded as a highly successful general and strategist with an acknowledged average tactical record. On the balance there's no way you can call him a flop general.
There are really good books on this topic that strongly investigate his career and are not fluff/charity pieces.
His plans were mostly flops often succeeding dispite himself and only through lower officers with actual competency. Re: the whiskey rebellion to see how badly Washington can fuck things up when left to his own devices.
Von stuben is a hero and largely responsible for Washingtons success and American victory generally.
You really need to read more about him. His "genius" was not in battlefield command but in intelligence, recruiting, long game provisioning and politics. You say successes by lower officers, I and many historians and even Washington's notes say "working as intended". The whole thing was a slow burn with which he knew he was trading cash and political capital for time. He just had to keep the team together, continue to bring in stud officers who actually were battlefield geniuses and so on.
He rope a doped Britain, even using his own reputation as collateral in the game.
Simply because I disagree with you doesn't mean I am uneducated on the matter sir, that's a fanciful argument to make in itself.
Good president, very charismatic and indeed a good political strategist. However a dogshit military leader which is my sole point.
That's just not supported by the historical academic community. Very educated folks have cut his career apart nearly day by day.
He had some big failures and faults but the final accounting is that on the balance, he was a great general, just not exactly in some of the ways we imagine generals of his era.
It is, perhaps not by your preferred academic but it certainly is and you know that, why be disingenuous.
That accounting is dispite him weighing successful actions he was involved in vs loses, they're not weighing him personally but when they do they all say he was dogshit militarily. He at times picked the right people and moved them forward and yet you also have people he outright fucked to secure his political influence at the cost of the nation and human life. Think old Benny boy.
I don't think the person choosing the image for the meme cared, and just wanted a composition of historical founding father significance and enough people for the speech bubbles.
You are letting your accurate knowledge of history get in the way of appreciating a political shitpost. Consider that.
Thank you for your comment. Of everything I read, this is the most sane response. It's a shitpost to send a specific message.