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[–] concrete_baby 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Lemmy and kbin are two different forum software that can be installed and run on servers. Because both use the ActivityPub protocol, the content between them can be shared. So, a Lemmy user will be able to see content from a server running kbin, using Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

But how can I see kbin content from lemmy, I couldnt find an option yet. Also from kbin I cannot find lemmy communities

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There isn't an option, you can't even tell but you already have the kbin content.

You can't disable it.

The reason that's happening right now is because kbin is enacting ddos protection using cloudflare so they aren't federating properly, this is a temporary problem.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is this only some kbin instances thing or all kbin instances thing? I'm fairly sure that fedia.io (/kbin instance) does not use cloudflare. But that would definitely explain why I'm struggling to search some instances that might use it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As far as i'm aware it's only the main kbin instance.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

but (as far as i can tell) kbin is way more centralized than lemmy, so it has a large effect

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

kbin being more centralized is just an unfortunate accident of timing. I was only first publicly released two months ago, and from what I understand there's still not much help available for starting up a new instance of your own, and the lone developer over there has been busy trying not to let the kbin.social server catch fire.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not at all, they're just having tech issues right now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ah. do you know where i can find a list of all the kbin instances?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://kbin.fediverse.observer/list

Here's a list I used to find kbin.run, it's a little barebones right now but the UI is really familiar as someone who used Reddit a lot. It is mostly centralized to kbin.social right now, as more instances pop up and the main instance fixes federation it should sort itself out as long as it keeps momentum.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Reading this from fedia right now

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is due to Kbin using Cloudflare anti DDoS, which disallows Lemmy instances reaching it

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That seems to go against the goal of federation.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

It’s a matter of keeping kbin up at all at the moment. The rapid growth in users following Reddit's ongoing suicide has overloaded the instance. It’s a temporary measure that Ernest will turn off when additional resources can be obtained. He is not a fan of losing federation either.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Indeed, but my guess is that Kbin's admins don't really know. Also that's what I've read, it may very well not be that :p

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

It's a temporary measure because of their explosive growth and being DDOS'd

They're getting better network resources and will resolve this.

[–] concrete_baby 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

To see Lemmy content on kbin, just add the full address of the Lemmy instance to the end of the kbin URL. For example, https://kbin.social/m/[email protected] lets you see content from [email protected] on https://kbin.social.

The other way round should also work (ie. to see kbin content on Lemmy), but for some reason it's not working on major Lemmy instances for me, even though they are federated to kbin.social and other kbin instances.

[–] liontigerwings 4 points 1 year ago

Someone said the cloudflare protection is breaking that ability

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you very much, I was trying to figure this out. This makes sense and seemed to work.

[–] danisth 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Same here. I can actually see the Kbin communities when I search, but it is showing no content. Not sure what it looks like from the Kbin side.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It looks good :-)
The cloudfare wall is a bit annoying but the UX is great. I didn't try any Lemmy instance though..

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

How do I find kbin communities and how do I add them to my Lemmy instance?

Is there a tutorial anywhere?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy instances seem to have trouble seeing content from kbin instances for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

The main kbin instance, kbin.social is getting slammed and cloudflare is breaking their sync in both directions, so currently you can't see their content on any other Lemmy or kbin instance afaik, and you can't see Lemmy content on there. Hopefully that gets fixed soon but it'll probably take a while. The other kbin instance are tiny and don't have much content but I think should be visible here