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Help encourage more reddit subs to move to Lemmy! Message the moderators of the subs you'd like to see on Lemmy. Here's an example script. (self.fediverse)
submitted 10 months ago by Anon518 to c/[email protected]
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Moving to the fediverse

Hi guys, are you familiar with the fediverse? It's an open-source reddit-alternative that is owned and run by no one. So it doesn't suffer from the threat of a single hostile entity making drastic, unwanted changes, as we recently saw with reddit, resulting in the side-wide protests.

It would be great to have your subreddit join the fediverse! If you do, I would suggest not using lemmy.world, as it's already the largest instance and it's better to spread things out so no one has too much control.

Info:

You can even create your own instance like /r/futurology and /r/piracy did https://futurology.today, https://lemmy.dbzer0.com. If you do, you may want to seed your community with content https://futurology.today/post/166237.

Once you make a community on Lemmy you could sticky a post in your sub to let your community know, and/or create an automod sticky in each thread.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Mass unsolicited messages are like JW knocking on your door to preach. No one will appreciate that. This is like the alien.top creator’s methodology. While backed by good intentions, you’re not really convincing anyone to switch. Organic movement of users is really the only full proof way to get more people on lemmy AND actually retaining them. A large number of reddit users who joined the mass exodus 6 months ago are probably back on reddit now and only a few actually stayed.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is like the alien.top creator’s methodology.

Hey there ;)

I am not sure if you are singling me out becuase of alien.top or not, because alien.top (by which I guess you mean the whole fediverser project) is less about "asking" them to move and more about getting those who are already aware of th fediverse and making it easier to migrate?

However, if you are talking about me personally, I have indeed sent messages to people (not in mass, personalized) and I can no doubt say it is effective as a way to bring awareness.

A large number of reddit users who joined the mass exodus 6 months ago are probably back on reddit now and only a few actually stayed.

Yeah, for a lack of content in the niche communities. How would that be the fault of the people who are trying to promote the Fediverse?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hey. Not singling you out at all. The fediverser project was just the first thing that came to mind when I posted my comment, and I remembered the part where you messaged people directly. I think I have the same opinion with regard to people having accounts made on their behalf and their comments reposted without their consent. I’m curious, do you have any data on the % of people who chose to take ownership of the accounts that were created for them? I’m sorry about the negative (and some very harsh) feedback you received on lemmy with the fediverser project.

How would that be the fault of the people who are trying to promote the Fediverse?

Wasn’t saying it’s the fault of people promoting lemmy. I was just using that as an example of how even users who willingly tried lemmy during the exodus are hard to retain. My point was was that the only way to get more users on lemmy is to make the platform and its content better and let it grow naturally.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

do you have any data on the % of people who chose to take ownership of the accounts that were created for them?

Not really. To do that the system would have to message everyone who posted or commented in any of the threads, and I didn't get to that stage.

My original plan was:

  1. Start mirroring the content to bootstrap the communities
  2. Get people on Lemmy interacting with the content.
  3. Use the interactions from people already on Lemmy as a signal to people on Reddit that they have an audience outside of Reddit. (The original idea was to make Lemmy responses creating DMs to the user to let them know about the Lemmy link). Get the people on Lemmy co-invested in bringing these "higher-value Redditors" to Lemmy.
  4. ~~Profit~~. Start seeing a bigger mass of people joining Lemmy via the "fediversed" instances.

This plan stopped at step #2 because I did not expect to have so many people here browsing by "all" and then complaining about the flood of content from the mirrors. So the absolute majority of Reddit users never actually were made aware of the mirrored content. I still think it's illogical, but I gave up on convincing hordes of people by arguing with "logic".

I was just using that as an example of how even users who willingly tried lemmy during the exodus are hard to retain.

Agree, but it's also a problem of pure lack of content. Now that I disabled the mirrors from alien.top, I honestly miss the niche communities that I participated and it is taking quite a bit of willpower to avoid saying "screw it" and re-joining the subs I participated there.