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[–] [email protected] 52 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

The hydra feeds upon its many heads, hurting itself in the confusion but somehow does not die

Can the Republicans just have their party schism already? The MAGA crowd took over the RNC leadership years ago, just admit it and make a new party - or better yet clean house and oust them from your ranks.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because anyone thinking of leaving the RNC understands how the game is rigged for them and the DNC, and any new party has pretty much no chance. And they also know that if they kicked the crazies out (if they even could), the only thing left of the party would be a husk. The crazy base is their power source right now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Agreed that the entrenched duopoly is no accident, but we also don’t have a Federalist party anymore either. The popular support eroded beneath them due to poor policy choices/outcomes, and that faction was politically homeless for years, and decades before they formed a new and coherent party structure with longevity. Which itself was enabled by the patronage and spoils that soured voters on the Jeffersonian-Democrats.

Adapt or die, it’s no different in biology or politics

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

To be clear, I'm not saying it can't happen (and it seems like it will eventually), but nobody in either half is surviving that split, and they know it. They're stuck with each other as they careen off this cliff.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

I suspect that this is still the future, but it's hard to know when it will actually happen. They've gone extreme enough that a lot of people are looking for the next conservative party.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The Libertarian Party has about 700,000 members and is on the ballot in all 50 states. I've been imagining a hostile takeover for some time.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (3 children)

That would be hilarious. If there's one thing most Americans seem to be able to agree on, it's that libertarians aren't worth voting for.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Most Americans have voted for a democrat since 2004. So that's probably true.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Even Republicans won't vote for Libertarians.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've always thought a Libertarian is just a Republican trying to sleep with a Democrat - or vice versa.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

A Republican that smokes weed.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Right wing groups have subsidized and aided the Libertarians and Green Party for years. They know that GOP voters will stick with the Party, and that Left folks can be persuaded to try something new.

[–] eestileib 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They're already clearly a coalition party as evidenced by the speaker elections and budget votes.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Nah a coalition is people voluntarily working together on purpose. The present day Republican Party is a hostage scenario - the moderates might want out, but don’t dare leave the fundraising & media machine behind if they do escape