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[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It will be interesting to see if Disney will stand by him or if they will replace him. They may not be willing to wait for a year to film any scenes they want Kang to be in and they replaced Terrence Howard.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

According to news reports, he's already been fired/released.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Johnny Depp got pulled from the Pirates series didn't he? That seemed to be murkier but also higher profile. They also fired James Gunn. I think it depends heavily on behind the scenes conversions. Maybe mandated counseling or something. A lot of people have gotten second chances. Gina Carano got canned but they tried pretty hard not to until it became clear she wouldn't shut up. I think JM has been laying relatively low.

I could see it going either way, but I've heard they've changed course on some of the plotting to reduce the importance of Kang.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

James Gunn and Gina Carano are very interesting opposite scenarios.

James Gunn was basically a hit piece before getting canned by one person superseding everyone else and eventually reinstated when everyone settled down.

Gina just made a target out of herself and got to keep her job because of one person vouching for her and eventually she was fired when she made it clear she wasn't going to stop.

Truth is each instance is different and the people deciding are different each time.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

James Gunn being an edgelord dipshit when he was younger was already known. He owned up to it when he was attacked and he had already previously owned up to it and put the effort in to "do better" as it were for years by that point. This is why the cast and crew as well as people all throughout hollywood came to his defense.

Gunn's firing is basically the ultimate counter to "Do one bad thing and people will ruin your life for it". he did a lot of bad shit but he had demonstrated he was not the same person saying that stupid shit and people defended him for it. It is the same reason that Robert Downey Jr has had such a massive career resurgence after his troubled years.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Johnny Depp got pulled from the Pirates series didn’t he

Didn't they stop making them before everything started coming out about him? And getting rid of people like James Gunn and John Lassiter work more for Disney because they work behind the scenes. They are more replaceable. But like I said, they didn't seem to mind replacing Terrence Howard. And Don Cheadle is a better actor anyway, so it worked out pretty well.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Terrance Howard also priced himself out. That was as much his decision as Disney's. I don't know. I guess we'll find out soon. I like JM as an actor but these allegations can blow back on companies seen as taking the wrong side, and here he was found guilty. There are some really hard conversations going on behind the scenes, for sure.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Allegedly Disney never made it clear that they reduced his role. So he was negotiating based on old info. No idea how accurate that is though.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Terrence Howard wasn't the focus of an entire phase the way Majors is/was supposed to be. A sidekick is a lot easier to replace than a big-bad who's already been in several franchise pieces.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In Depp's case there wasn't a lot of nuance. He was a victim but also the bad guy, he and Heard were both the villains.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

You're right they were in a mutually destructive relationship. Probably best to get as far away from both as possible. But god damn team Johnny vs team Amber was the hot story for about five fucking minutes. That was a firecracker at the time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My understanding is their fallback plan is to bring in Dr Doom as the big bad rather than recasting Kang.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

That's just rumors.