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"When you use Signal, your data is stored in encrypted form on your devices. The only information that is stored on the Signal servers for each account is the phone number you registered with, the date and time you joined the service, and the date you last logged on."

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Basically, it makes the whole platform less secure because you could accidentally send a non-encrypted message at any time. With SMS-free Signal, at least mistaken sent messages are still E2E encrypted.

Is their goal to become the new de-facto messaging app? Or is their goal to become the most secure messaging app for whistle blowers, etc for whom a single mistake could mean losing their life or their freedom?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Have unsecured messages be opt-in and have a warning banner on non-encrypted messages. Maybe even a confirmation dialog.

That way people who want or need to be that paranoid can be, but the rest of us can have something a bit more convenient.

By disallowing SMS messaging they've just made it so a lot of people who were being secure when their contacts allowed, aren't being secure at all.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

If they are so concerned about the privacy and lives of whistleblowers they should implement usernames (and multiple accounts) instead of forcing people to give their cell phone numbers to others.

The use of cell phones in an app supposedly made for dissidents and whistleblowers is the stupidest decision I've ever seen.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah, I'm basically in this boat. My OS is what brings my notifications together, and makes clear distinctions between the different apps I utilize. I don’t need one app to do everything. I use signal for sensitive business, having conversations about projects and sending credentials to coworkers. I use Teams for general work conversations. I use iMessage for nearly all other casual conversations - of those maybe 30% are SMS.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As an Android user, all I have to say is fuck iMessage. Dark pattern, anticompetitive piece of shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I think you mean Apple. Apple is an anticompetitive. They don't want people to leave their ecosystem the moment they've bought a signal apple product.