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Started to get this message when accessing Reddit. I use LibreWolf as a browser, which does indeed provide a more generic user agent to combat fingerprinting, but nothing out of the ordinary either (Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; rv:109.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/119.0). Anyone else experiencing this?

Edit: seems to have resolved itself. Thanks for confirming I wasn't doing anything wrong. Let's hope this isn't some new algorithm to test if for insufficient fingerprinting so Reddit can kick ad-resistant users.

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[–] [email protected] 240 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Reddit is corrupt. It probably has something to do with them wanting to track you, and they can't track you if you have a blank user agent.

Stay here at Lemmy where humans are respected as humans instead of data mines. Life is more dignified here at Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Stay here at Lemmy where humans are respected as humans

I saw a post a few days ago where one Lemmy user threatened to triangulate another user via IP, and then hurt them, because they said Linux doesn't work out of the box as well as windows in their experience.

This was on a main instance. The person didn't get in any trouble.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

Did you report the comment?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Yikes. That's concerning.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Was it a shit post? Don't mistake me as being dismissive of threats, it's just that "triangulate based on IP" sounds like a joke.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, unfortunately. The guy seemed really mad. Calling the other guy a moron, idiot, and telling him to apologise. From what I could see from the comments, it seems like the one guy visited the angry guys website, and the guy threatened to use his IP to find out where he lived. Then used threats about how it's nice to sleep at night without fear, and that if you piss the wrong people off you'll know.

All because the guy was having Linux issues and said windows worked better for them. I only found the thread because I'm also having the same issues lol.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

That's a massive yikes. Be sure to report shit like that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The mad guy sounds tech illiterate anyway. Nowadays you can't track people by IP anymore. Sure you get a city, maybe a city district and then what?

To prove my point, here's where my IP (Without VPN) will tell you where I live: Berlin. I live on the other side of the country compared to Berlin.

These scriptkiddies are so pathetic .

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

But Linux DOES require more effort to set up than Windows. Who in the hell would deny that?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yo Pop OS is working ony Surface pro 3 perfectly basically, definitely better than Windows 10 was.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's all well and good but now that the smoke cleared it's a Twitter/Mastodon situation

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah. You're not wrong.

Ever since I discovered I can have infinite conversations with infinite people about infinite topics, I am addicted to this format.

Now see how they exploit us 😡

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm my golden socialist utopia online platforms would flourish freely with each new conversation.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't quite understand what you mean. I know Twitter has kind of gone to hell, but beyond that I'm not sure.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I think his point was that most conversations happen where people are, and people are still more on Twitter than Mastodon by multiple orders of magnitude even after the "exodus".

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Stay here at Lemmy where humans are respected as humans instead of data mines. Life is more dignified here at Lemmy.

I like the sentiment, but it is so incredibly naive to think that there aren't crawlers scraping every ounce of data from Lemmy as possible. While Lemmy itself may not be collecting user data (depending on who is hosting your home instances of choice), other data that is valuable can still be collected, particularly for LLM AI.

If you can access it, the data scrapers have already crawled it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Why use scraper on Lemmy when bots can federate and have the data directly sent to them?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Especially considering the post from a little while ago showing that admins of Lemmy instances can see what individual users are upvoting and downvoting. There's nothing to stop a bad actor from setting up an instance and just harvesting data.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

admins of Lemmy instances can see what individual users are upvoting and downvoting

Everyone can see that via kbin. for example, here's your comment.

(not sure about downvotes... you might have to work a bit more to see those.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

T H E F U T U R E

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That's why I just say dumb shit on here.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Just look at how Reddit uses fingerprinting, absolutely part of their tracking

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

and they can't track you if you have a blank user agent.

They absolutely can. A blank user agent is a fingerprint like any other.