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Hi, I have a transmasc boyfriend and am part of the LGBTQ+ alliance. However I started my first year of college and encountered uneducated men who just did not believe that trans people had their rights under attack. One of my friends even told my trans woman friend that she had more rights than him. How or what can you do to help others become educated without "debating trans existence" or starting an argument? Thank you.

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[–] SouthernCanadian 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

To say something controversial: maybe listen to what they have to say and try to understand why they think what they think, instead of assuming that you're automatically right and just need to educate them.

[–] Daefsdeda 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think its pretty weird if you say trans people are treated equally, let alone more rights. It's still a societal problem we have in a lot of places and in my experience all I meet that are trans have some sucky times because of other people...

[–] Zirconium 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Thats the issue though. They dont think, Ive tried asking them about stuff and they'll parrot things like "puberty blockers kill people." then I show them that study was wrong and they just dont believe me lol.

[–] SouthernCanadian 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think it's worth asking, on a case by case basis, if a conversation with that person is going to be productive. Are they open at all to changing their mind about any aspect of the topic (and are you)? If not, then all you can do with that person is be an example of a good, reasonably sane person who disagrees with them. Just my 2¢.

[–] Daefsdeda 1 points 2 years ago

You are right though. Always be open for change in discussions. How else will we ever be truthful to ourselves and others. But this doesnt feel like a discussion.

Being a dick to someone will never be okay, except when they are being a dick. Conservative, progressive or whatever, idc. But its just a dick's opinion to hate trans.

[–] MomoTimeToDie -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So your only example is a strawman nobody believes?

[–] Zirconium 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

People actually use "puberty blockers are harmful" as an actual argument so I dont think its that hard to believe.

Heritage Foundation (Youtube)

The Federalist

Western Journal

Texas banning puberty blockers and hormone treatment

[–] goat 0 points 1 year ago

Why are you linking the Federalist?

[–] MomoTimeToDie -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lol you've already pivoted your argument. Seems you're the one incapable of good faith interaction