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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Are we referring to the right to exist in ancestral lands where largely, the only claim to such lands are a millennias old religious text? The current occupants of said land have actual, clear historical precedence rooted in fact to occupy said land.

Also, as others have pointed out, I think it's pretty clear that Israel could exist anywhere. The concept of a nation is largely driven by the shared collective of human experiences, culture, norms, and beliefs of the people that inhabit said Nation, not geographical boundaries.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Jews have always lived in that area (called Transjordan) and one of the reasons the British empire created the ethnostate of Israel was to stop another mass exodus of Jews happening. This time in a land where they have lived for thousands of years. Their claim is not different from the one of Palestinians.

There is plenty of archeologial and genetic proof that Jews are native to the area. It's not simply a claim because of religion.

Palestine on the other hand was not happy with the decision from the beginning and didn't want to accept sharing the land with a group that was a (not well liked) minority.

Now we know that probably Israel also wasn't happy with the sharing, though they pretended to be (or perhaps they were, who knows). Because they proceeded to take land from Palestine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

But they need the land their fairytale book specifies, otherwise their magical sky wizard will be angered.