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How to deal with Ancient aliens in the workplace? (lemmy.blahaj.zone)

submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Two of my coworkers frequently mention shows like "Encounters" or "Ancient apocalypse" or whatever. I'm not the best at debating or forming arguments against these though I do feel strongly that bold claims require better evidence than a blurry photo and an eyewitness account. How do you all go about this?

Today I clumsily stumbled through conversation and said "I'll need some evidence" and was hit with "there's plenty of evidence in the episode 'Lights over Fukushima'". I didn't have an answer because I haven't watched it. I'm 99% sure that if I watch it it's gonna be dramatized, designed to scare/freak you out a little and consist of eyewitness accounts and blurry photos set to eerie music. But I'm afraid I just sound like a haughty know-it-all if I do assert this before watching.

These are good people and I want to remain on good terms and not come across as a cynical asshole.

(Sorry if language is too formal or stilted. Not my native tongue)

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

You're approaching it wrong. Don't fight them. Fake interest and talk with them to investigate their stupid believes. Try to understand why they believe it, how did they get brainwashed, what defence mechanism they have in place to discredit real science. It can be fascinating experience for you and you will learn a lot about people in general.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Or just stonewall them if you don't want to deal with that nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, you can also do it but I really think it's good to investigate people like this a bit. Couple years ago I spend some times watching the craziest videos about alternative science from my country and I think I actually learned a lot. My take now is that a lot of people pushing those things are actually smart and have a lot of charisma but without proper education. They don't understand science because they never learned about so society tells them they are stupid. This creates growing frustration in them and when they stumble on alternative science they suddenly have an explanation: it's not that I'm stupid, the science is wrong. Alternative science is a lot simpler, more intuitive and they can shine there and become some sort of leader. I notices they all tell the same (obviously made up) story: some guy said my invention is stupid but then I showed him how it works and it blew his mind and he was amazed at how great it is. Showing society they are actually the smart ones and everyone else is wrong is one of their main fantasies.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They talk about this in the documentary Behind the Curve. Pretty much exactly what you said here

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Actually for me Behind the Curve was more about community and fame. For most people it's about belonging to some group. There's a documentary about Star Trek that shows the same thing. For the 'leaders' it's definitely about fame and other benefits and Behind the Curve was spot on here.

[–] EmoDuck 7 points 10 months ago

One of my coworkers was big into conspiracy and I had one conversation with him trying to understand where he's coming from with all of this. I quickly realized that changing his mind was impossible because he wasn't even talking with me, he was talking at me. After that I just smiled and nodded at everything he said. He's yet to realize this

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Exactly. It's reality TV you get paid to consume. Win win win. They think they are smart. You get to giggle internally. And your boss thinks you are a great leader.