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[–] [email protected] 166 points 1 year ago (7 children)

If you're wondering how fun this could get, here's an article from the National Post arguing that poverty should be a qualifier for assisted suicide

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canada-medical-aid-in-dying

Here's another where a woman with sensitivities to various chemical smells chose to die because she couldn't find an apartment that was affordable and didn't reek of noxious chemicals

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/woman-with-chemical-sensitivities-chose-medically-assisted-death-after-failed-bid-to-get-better-housing-1.5860579

The people who are worried about this aren't worried about people who genuinely want to die committing suicide. It was always nearly impossible to stop them anyway, and there's no way to change that. What we're worried about is people being pushed toward MAID because they've been systemically denied things they need to live that are absolutely available. We're worried about mentally ill people being told "do the right thing, don't be a burden" when they want to live. We're worried about suicide becoming the answer to problems that are caused by social and legislative conditions. We're worried about becoming the kind of society where, rather than help one another, it's expected that anyone who needs help just off themselves.

This is all coming from someone who tried twice and will be eternally grateful that I managed to fuck it up both times.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

Your comment brings up the most relevant point against MAID and it's clear we can be a better society than one which pushes people over the edge, or let's them fall despite their pleas.

I too am glad that you managed to fuck it up and that you're here with us.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Glad you pushed through this.

As someone with a disability, this is one of my biggest fears: Social pressure to seek assisted suicide.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think everybody deserves the right to end their life in a humane way.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I think you should never have to feel that suicide is your only option because material conditions outside of your control suck so hard.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Within reason.

But if the reason given is because classists don’t want you dirtying up their sidewalk with a wheelchair ramp, that’s just unreasonable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Having people kill themselves because they can't afford to live is the opposite of humane.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This is the best answer.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I got close to trying several times. I suffer from anxiety and depression, I'm obsessive but I love life. I just wish I could solve my mental issues. Offing yourself is not a solution. It's like I have a math question in front of me and I rip up the paper and toss it in a can.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'm glad you made it here.

As a mental health professional, the slow leaning towards mental health issues being a qualification for MAID is terrifying.