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[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Vaping should be limited to 18+ consumers just like "standard" nicotine products. But we shouldn't pretend, like the WHO and other organizations do, that Vaping hasn't been used by many (myself included) to effectively quit nicotine. Personally I kicked a 2 pack a day habit because of vaping and today I use no nicotine products (including vaping) because of it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Agreed.

More restrictions is uncalled for.

I quit smoking cigarettes using a "box mod" in 2016 and gradually tapered down from a very high nicotine blend to 0 nicotine using 100% vegetable glycerin and peppermint flavoring and then I finally literally lost my vape and just never bothered to replace it...

So anyways, I started smoking over 30 years ago and I don't vape or smoke anymore.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

We need stricter regulations on the production of disposables or ingredients. Like, using diacetyl which is known to cause popcorn lung. Or the whole vitamin E oil causing lung disease in black market vapes...

Maybe something similar to the regulations around alcohol. We know alcohol is bad, but the long term effects are much different than going blind from methanol.

Smoking or vaping isn't good long term, but it shouldn't be able to kill your lungs after a few uses.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

While the popcorn lung and vitamin e oil shit were both real they were not truly widespread problems and they were already regulated /legislated against.

Those people broke the fucking law.

More regulations don't prevent lawbreakers.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That was a problem with black market and unregulated Vape production, especially in the early days. It was never widespread, it just happened in a few places where people were buying vape products off of some random guy on the street. This was mostly a problem when this stuff first came out, because there wasn't a lot of legitimate companies making the vape juice and cartridges at first.

I do agree that we need regulation on the disposable vapes just for the amount of trash that they create. Disposables are so much worse for the environment than refillable vapes.