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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Toilet paper. My asshole deserves Angel Soft.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you really care about your asshole get a bidet

[–] EmoDuck 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Stop recommending bidets to me, I'm already convinced. It's just that from the three toilets I've owned in my life, all of them were for one reason or another incapable of being retrofitting with one. I envy your guy's clean assholes

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They don’t have a standard supply line with threaded connections?

[–] EmoDuck 2 points 1 year ago

They do but it's in such an awkward position that I'd need a custum made connection piece

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Get a bidet shower then. Controlled spray so there's minimal splash as well.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I have a vagina and bidets can fuck up your vaginal microflora, so no bidet for me. If I didn't I'd probably use one, though.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting I just had surgery in my vagina and the doctors recommended using bidet to make sure that area cleaner then just wiping.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Probably a different consideration for a fresh wound vs normal maintenance, I'd definitely follow your doctor's instructions!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Billions of women in the world east of Europe all the way to Japan would disagree with you. But then again it's the bidet shower variety.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not really an opinion, bidets are associated with abnormal vaginal flora and preterm birth.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Your linked study is done with 212 subjects. 212!

With a population that small, you can have any conclusion you'd like. There are billions of people who use bidet showers daily in the world, your study has 212!

If you believe in the scientific method, you should know that a study has to be verified by many independent studies with big enough data samples before it is accepted as fact. You must surely know that there are studies that conclude that the climate change is a hoax. But the overwhelmingly majority makes these handful outliers or flawed studies.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sigh, I was wondering if this particular misunderstanding of statistics had migrated from reddit to here.

No, you cannot dismiss a study because it "only" has 212 people. 200 people is enough to get an 85% confidence level.

On top of that, it is hardly the only study showing vaginal microflora alteration in bidet users:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21058441/

Normal microflora (Lactobacillus species) was not present in 42.86% of bidet toilet users, compared to 8.77% of non-users. Fecal bacteria were detected in 50 of the 268 cases (18.66%), 46 cases in users (92%) and only 4 cases in non-users (8%). Contamination by other pathogens was 4 to 6 times higher in users than in non-users.

I get there is a cult of bidet users who will hear no slander of them, but it's not going to make me spray water from my toilet seat and around my vulva and potentially into my vagina. You are not changing my mind on this and I invite you to read more about sample sizes if you want to do something productive: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6970301/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Your first study has even used women who had admitted to the hospital and therefore used the shared hospital toilet bidets. I think this fact alone would make it enough to disqualify it.

Apart from hospital bidet being a one extra germ filled surface the patient touches, it raises the following questions. Was there a problem with the brand of bidet used in the hospital that might cause more of an uncontrolled spray? Did the particular toilet bowl shape contribute to the result? Non of these stays the same within the general population and any outliers would be cancelled out in a huge dataset.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You need the handheld kind that can shoot water front to back.

[–] Willy 6 points 1 year ago

Same but cottonelle

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Angel Soft is garbage tier IMO. Charmin or bust for me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I find Charmin tends to shred too easily, even the β€˜strong’ kind. Angel Soft is at the right level between firm and soft for me. Might be less of a problem if I had less ass hair.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Women with much less ass hair here. I too, choose angels often as the superior brand.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's not, its actually wonderful. It's one of the few brands that doesn't shed bits off, and whatever chemicals/softeners they use doesn't irritate my skin like other big-name brands.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah, how is your husband?