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[–] [email protected] 87 points 11 months ago (54 children)

In order to use a defibrillator, you have to remove everything from a person's chest. This includes the bra and to even shave chest hair to be able to apply the pads correctly.

I've always thought that it would be troublesome for a man to have to apply a defibrillator to a woman if someone assumes foul play because of their own issues.

Life over dignity in that situation, everyone else be damned.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 11 months ago (18 children)

If I saw someone with a defibrillator ripping the clothes off an unconscious woman, I don't think I would suspect foul play.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You might not, but you gotta remember that the public is also filled with idiots

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (1 children)

While my cousin's neighbor is fighting a law suit because, a woman (cousin's neighbor) used defibrillator on another woman(when her heart stopped) , and other woman is now suing the neighbor for some minor marks from defibrillator. Mostly neighbor will win the case, but she has to appear in court now. Makes me feel so angry and i don't even know the neighbor lady.

[–] funkless_eck 38 points 11 months ago (2 children)

in these cases sometimes the insurance makes you sue even if you don't want to because otherwise they won't pay for any of the debt

My colleague has a situation where he's being sued by his neighbor for minor burns after a firework accident a few years ago 4th of July. The neighbor doesn't want to sue him but has no choice to get the medical services paid for.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] captain_aggravated 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if judges could be persuaded to levy punitive damages against the insurance company for this kind of thing. "Your honor, we're only wasting your time with this because the insurance company is making us sue. Could you confiscate a few hundred million dollars from them for this worthless harassment?"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

At least in America, all the judges are either in the pocket of the businesses or have their hands tied by laws passed by legislators who are in the pocket of businesses. Fuck them businesses.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

The ultimate goal with insurance companies is to have you give them money and they never have to give you anything in return. If they can get you to sue the other person, the insurance company doesn't have to pay. To them it's a win-win.

Weakly regulated insurance is a scam

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (4 children)

And you have to remember that there's a difference between what some random idiot on the street thinks and what someone can actually be prosecuted for.

Jesus Christ, do the fucking CPR

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

It's not just about being prosecuted, but publicly judged and shamed for.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Surely there are good Samaritan laws even in the US?

[–] Patches 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The court of public opinion, and cancel culture, do not care about good Samaritan laws.

News that destroys reputations can spread faster and further than the truth. Most people still think the McDonalds coffee lady is a gold digger after 20 years of corrections.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There are, but remember that defenses come into play after being sued. So you can still go through the mental nightmare (because let's be real, a rich person isn't going to be doing CPR, and certainly isn't going to care about being sued, so only your typical person who could lose everything in this scenario) of being a defendant in a lawsuit until the judge agrees to toss it or you go to court and are found not liable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

The public scrutiny and the mark on your record does not go away even if you're found not liable. Once you are even accused of anything like this, it's there forever. People will think you got off on a "technicality".

If you're a man facing this, your life is ruined. May as well move away and never come back.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Never said I wouldn't do the CPR. Only pointing out that in an emergency situation that people are fucking stupid and that a random idiot could easily interfere violently with what they think might be sexual assault

[–] Meowoem 0 points 11 months ago

I agree do the CPR but my fear would be getting kicked in the head not sued

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