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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would think that if all the tenants banded together, they could also negotiate on rent rises. I doubt they could prevent them, but they could certainly threaten to refuse to pay collectively if it was too high. Yes, that risks evicting the whole building, but that seems like a bad risk for the management company to take.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Forming a "union" and not paying rent sounds like a sure fire way to get a whole building evicted.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I said refuse to pay the rent increase. Why would they evict the building over that? Because they don't want any rent at all?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's simply not how this works, if you don't pay your rent, you get evicted. And yes, a landlord likely would evict an entire building full of troublemakers.

The idea is, if you don't like the cost of something, you go somewhere else. Why would rent be any different?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And yes, a landlord likely would evict an entire building full of troublemakers.

Do you have an example of a landlord evicting every tenant of a large apartment building because they banded together to oppose a rent increase?

The idea is, if you don’t like the cost of something, you go somewhere else.

Have you not been paying attention? There is nowhere else. Rent is ridiculously high everywhere. You free marketers are not grounded in reality.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have an example of a landlord evicting every tenant of a large apartment building because they banded together to oppose a rent increase?

Has anyone tried this before? this entire premise just isn't realistic, the only leverage you have over a landlord, besides knowing the rules, is taking your business elsewhere, AKA a boycott.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the whole point of unionizing the building. So yes it is realistic and yes it does give you leverage. Do you really think they would evict 50 apartments simultaneously?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you really think they would evict 50 apartments simultaneously?

Yes, yes I do.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would they risk losing all of that income when they would lose a lot less if they just negotiated with the tenants? Sounds like they're really bad at business.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because they could replace them with tenants who will not only pay the new rate, but not be a pain in the ass.

Your hypothetical tenants are not negotiating from a position of strength at all, they can be easily replaced.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They could reach full capacity before they lost enough money to make it not worth it? Where would all of these people willing to pay their higher rates come from?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you not been paying attention? There is nowhere else. Rent is ridiculously high everywhere.

According to you, there is a shortage of rental properties, and no shortage of tenants.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There's a shortage of affordable rental properties. Why are you not aware of this?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/12/housing-renter-affordable-data-map