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A new law in Texas requires convicted drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill a child’s parent or guardian, according to House Bill 393.

The law, which went into effect Friday, says those convicted of intoxication manslaughter must pay restitution. The offender will be expected to make those payments until the child is 18 or until the child graduates from high school, “whichever is later,” the legislation says.

Intoxication manslaughter is defined by state law as a person operating “a motor vehicle in a public place, operates an aircraft, a watercraft, or an amusement ride, or assembles a mobile amusement ride; and is intoxicated and by reason of that intoxication causes the death of another by accident or mistake.”

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So now drunk drivers have an incentive to claim it was intentional, not accidental.

The overall idea here is excellent, but it is fundamentally nonsensical to only apply it to drunk drivers and not all killers.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

I guess... but that's a risky move in a state that's pretty gung-ho with the death penalty. I think most would rather pay the child support than admit to second or first degree murder

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You think first degree murder would be a better financial decision than manslaughter?

Agreed with your second sentence. Though I think the state should step in to help the kids in either instance. If they're convicted and are in prison it's trying to get blood from a stone at that point.

This is Texas though. This isn't about helping anyone it's just grandstanding for votes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

For some people, prison could be a better alternative to becoming homeless due to an even smaller paycheck. I don't think the idea of it is as outlandish as you think.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That reminds me of something that may not at all be true (please correct me if I'm wrong) I was told it, many years ago, by a person who lived for a few years in China.

She said that there was a law there (in the '90s at least) that if you injured someone accidentally to the point that they were disabled, you had to pay their disability as long as they lived (or you die, whichever is first). BUT if you accidentally killed someone (not murdered) then you just had to pay their family a fine.

The fine was much less than a lifetime of disability payments, so there was incentive, if you accidentally injured someone (especially a child with a lot of years to live) to just go all the way and kill them as long as it could feasibly look like an accident.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A classic example of perverse incentives. Same for endangered animals. The most rational self-interest thing you can do is you see some endangered animal on your land is to kill it. Since if the government becomes aware of it you will lose control of your property and it will lose resell value.

You want to make things such that doing the morally correct, or at least the correct for the greater good, is always the best option for people to choose.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

This is also an argument against extreme punishment for lesser offenses. For example, if you rape someone, and the penalty is death, might as well kill them too, because it ain't gonna get any worse for you if you get caught.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What I want to know is if they have to keep paying if the kids never graduate. It’s Texas so it seems like the odds are pretty high you could be paying for some dudes kids until they either get shot in a bar or do a lethal fentanyl hit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Child support continues until the child is no longer a child (18).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone might want to fix the summary. In bold it says 18 or when they graduate from high school *whichever is later *.