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A Georgia school board voted along party lines Thursday to fire a teacher after officials said she improperly read a book on gender fluidity to her fifth grade class.

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I'm trying to wrap my head around the intent.

Is this a case where she was fired because the book didn't have anything to do with the class she's teaching? Or because a bunch of parents went Karen and it made the school district look bad?

If a history class references passages from the bible, I think that is inappropriate in general but it depends on context. If it's using the bible to explain say the history of the Holy War, that makes sense. Having the context about the why does help.

If she was teaching Sex Ed and talking about gender fluidity, in that context it makes sense to me.

Like you can't talk about Hitler's philosophies without being up Mein kampf even at a shallow level. And to ignore it is disingenuous to education.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The thing is: You need the kids to have this information before puberty really starts to take off so they know what's going on with them when they start to feel things that are related to gender fluidity/homosexuality/whatever, so they grow up without the self-doubts and such but with the feeling that what they are is just another human being.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Things related to sexual attraction (e.g. homosexuality) might start around puberty, but things related to gender itself can start even earlier than that. This source claims that about ¾ of folks with gender dysphoria first experience it by age 7.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The intent is transphobia, anything else is an excuse.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gender identity is more than just being trans you know.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Transphobes don't know that.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The 'insubordination' part is especially confounding. She's insubordinate by reading a children's book to children? What?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She’s insubordinate by reading a children’s book to children? What?

If it's "insubordination' then it's safe to assume either (a) she was explicitly told not to do this by a superior, or (b) there must be a rule or regulation against it in the school district.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Or (c) they're making up bullshit reasons to fire her.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Applying logic to bigotry is a waste of time. It's just ingroup loyalty. The rest is mouth noises. They won't be clever noises, and they won't be consistent noises.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I did some digging to see if she was teaching a particular subject or anything. She was a teacher in the schools gifted program and per her Wikipedia page "According to the Cobb County School Board, Rinderle read the book during a time block that was supposed to be dedicated to mathematics instruction and enrichment, but Rinderle denies this allegation.".

I'm going to keep looking but it seems like their schooling is structured differently than I have any experience in. When I was in 5th grade we had 3 teachers that we rotated between for different subjects. It seems like she was responsible for several subjects or the entire curriculum for her students. Either way, the school boards intent is clear and malicious.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Thanks for looking into this.

Reading an off topic book during a particular time block isn't an offense deserving of termination to any same person, either.