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[–] booty 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The moment Firefox gets native vertical tabs with drag and drop grouping, I'm making the switch. But, as it stands, the vertical tabs in Edge are irreplaceable and not a single of the "workarounds" to make them possible in Firefox feel good at all.

I need drag and drop tab grouping and vertical tabs. That's it.

Edge also just introduced workspaces which feels like something I'm going to love once I get the time to mess with them.

I want to leave Edge because I want to be done with Chromium in general, but Firefox feels too behind the times for me.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What do you like about vertical tabs?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not the person you responded to, but more tabs visible at once & being able to group them as a tree is incredibly useful.

The grouping as tree thing happens automatically in sidebery (extension for firefox). When you have a tab open, any link you click will be added as a child node to the current tab. If you're doing research, or just don't want to lose your focus, it is immensely helpful.

Brave supports vertical tabs but doesn't do the tree thing. Not useful at all compared to sidebery tbh. I don't know how Edge works in that regard though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Sounds worth checking out, thanks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

thanks, I was looking for tree tabs that don't suck

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'm assuming the people who use tabs as bookmarks

[–] booty 2 points 1 year ago

In addition to what others have said, I prefer more vertical space for webpages. Vertical tabs take up much less space and are, in my opinion, much easier to organize. I also don't need to see the title bar constant and the favicon is plenty for me to keep track of what's there.

Grouping helps me keep ideas together. I don't like to bookmark things I'm only going to need for a few hours/days, so grouping tabs helps me keep them open without them getting in the way.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why does it need to be native? There are numerous extensions that do this. That's half the point of Firefox, it's so extensible.

[–] booty 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As I said in my original comment, none of those workarounds feel good. They show their seams constantly. I've tried a handful of extensions and not one feels as good as or is as feature complete as what's native in Edge.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have no idea what you're talking about, I use a dozen different extensions, including a tab group manager, and it works great.

[–] booty 1 points 1 year ago

That's totally fair, too. Not everyone gets bothered by the same things.

The last set up I used was this one and what made me give up is that it is so easy to accidentally close it. I had to look through my Firefox history to find that and when I closed the history sidebar, my tab bar was gone. It's just a press of F1 to get it open, but why can't I just make it persistent? Why does it have to share the same space as so many other features in Firefox? I don't care if history wants to occupy the same space for the moment I need it, but when I'm done, go back to showing my tabs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I need me some tab grouping (especially on mobile). I switched to FF and that's the only thing I miss

[–] booty 1 points 1 year ago

I haven't ever tried it on mobile. I probably don't use my mobile browser enough to justify it, but now I'm going to have to look into it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm experimenting with vertical tabs myself. Sidebery is the closest thing I've found to a pleasant experience.

[–] booty 1 points 1 year ago

And it's still not what I'd (personally) call pleasant. I tried a plethora of different setups and not one comes close to what Edge offers out of the box.

I'm not trying to shill for Edge. I would 100% prefer not to use it just based on principle. But I can't help it that it has features I've come to NEED.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like what you need is Floorp, it's a Firefox fork with all of this built in.

https://floorp.app

[–] booty 1 points 1 year ago

I'll be trying this out tonight. I hope you're right.