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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah there is no evidence to suggest what the numbers were the local gov said it was 300 dead so we know its at least that but others who were there estimated up to several thousand. Most estimates are 500-1500 range it seems with thousands wounded.

It was a big protest and China tanks needed to be sent in so I think 1000 is reasonable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yup. I would say around 500-800 but sure. At least we have an order of magnitude.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why do you avoid answering to the comment with fact in it ? https://lemmy.nz/comment/15846421

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why do you keep resorting to lazy personal attacks?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Because you keep choosing to answer weak arguments. Just to precise, in what was it a perosnnal attack ?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And you keep choosing to resort to lazy personal attacks. And you know which ones are personal attacks, don't play dumb

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ho I am 100% convinced your a paid troll, sorry if it hurt you. But you still avoid answering.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If that was true you wouldn't keep replying. You know I'm not, you're just using it as a personal attack

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lol no because I love to play with troll. I you were not I would have let it go since long before. Since your paid you should work

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Did that even make sense in your head?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It does if not I wouldn't do it :D

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok. Well it didn't make sense out of your head

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No. I looked at different testimonials and believe this estimation is safer and closer to a potential reality.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre - Death toll section

I believe I checked the numbers at the French page some time ago, and based on the diversity of reports and their background, I personally believed that it was around 500. I do get that people can estimate a bit more or a bit less though.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So Wikipedia is what convinced you?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Wikipedia is a community-driven encyclopedia based on sources. All claims include a source.

What do you want more?

Those articles being on a controversial topic, have been moderated and are pretty well done in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You should ask him about this : https://lemmy.nz/comment/15846421 Seem to be too much for him.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We got it. They're avoiding to answer or acknowledge your comment.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Not my comment though. And he answer and acknowledged my comment fine. But not this one I wonder why. Edit : typo

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sorry, my autocorrect failed me. I corrected.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, I think he is a paid troll but no need to be insulting or hurting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I’m not insulting 🤔 just joking with the fact that French speakers and English don’t really go well together

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ha no I mean me, I didn't want to misgender, you weren't insulting. Sorry my English isn't really good

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So it was Wikipedia that convinced you?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I was convinced something happened way before this, but for the number of deaths, yes, that was my source.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok. They'd fail you for that in highschool

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

For sure, that’s why I passed then.

Stop talking nonsense please.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You used Wikipedia as a source and passed?

Standards sure have dropped

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

One of the sources, or just get the sources quoted in wikipedia and use them. Ofc you're supposed to check on multiple sources, but using wikipedia isn't bad.

Not sure what you have against it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Good god, I knew education standards had dropped but didn't realise they'd dropped that much

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Instead of being mean and changing subjects, do you have anything interesting to add?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Okay, have a good day