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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (12 children)

Sure. I strongly support the usage of selfish leftish reasonings.

Another good one is "look, I don't want me shit stolen, poor people steal my shit. less poor people, less shit of mine is stolen. That is why I support a social safety net"

Obviously in reality, the rich steal more of my shit but that is the next left wing reason of taxation.

Edit: for free education, there are also some good ones. Free education => more accessibility => more e.g. doctors, cheaper quicker healthcare. More doctors => more competition => better doctors and better service.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (10 children)

OMG I love you! Do you take requests? I'd love one for environmentalism or proper healthcare. Then I'll stop nagging you

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Environmentalism is difficult because it just doesn't work for certain things. CO2 is for a big part of the population not a real issue. Like they die anyway soonish. If you talk about clean beaches and parks, It could work but that is probably not your focus.

Proper healthcare as in 'free'? Or just a better quality? Anti-corpo health insurance?

I would love to think about arguments like that but I need details to form them.

[–] kersploosh 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

There are lots of arguments in favor of environmental protections even if someone thinks CO2 is not an issue. Think smog over major cities, or rivers being too polluted to swim in, or oil spills. You can't eat the fish you catch in many water bodies because of industrial contamination with heavy metals and PCBs. Mine tailings leach chemicals out into lakes and rivers. This is all very visible stuff that cannot be waved away with vague doubts.

You can counter the "drill baby drill" people by pointing out that using up our oil first makes us dependent on other countries in the future. Given that the world has a finite supply of oil, it's smart to keep ours in the ground as much as possible. Hold on to that domestic oil as a future "strategic reserve," and focus on developing renewables for our daily energy needs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

I agree with you but you seem to misunderstand me. I tried to express that for a lot of people the CO2 issue is the one that they really want to focus on, due to the impact. The arguments for reducing CO2 are almost entirely long term issues and a lot of people think they won't experience it anyway as they die beforehand, making a selfish argument difficult. Especially if they are supposed to be simple punchline.

For non-co2 issues, it is easy.

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