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Ocasio-Cortez Rips GOP for Rushing Ahead With Medicaid Cuts 'When Everyone Is Asleep'
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Take a really hard look at yourself if you think a leftwinger should have no red lines at all in what they support.
Only unprincipled people have no red lines at all, and if you think that somebody who doesn't have a red line when it comes to supporting an ethno-Fascist ideology like Zionist is going to have a red line when it comes to things like destroying the Environment, further weakening worker rights or further destroying social security, then I have a water crossing piece of real-estate to sell you.
She could easilly had just abstained, but no, she had to support Zionism.
Reminds me of Marx Groucho's saying "I have Principles. If you don't like them, I have others" - if AOC acts like that, how is she ethically any different from the likes of Pelosi?
Lots of words to try to explain being a dumbshit. It's moral to support the lesser of evils, full stop.
There are other, actually honest and Principled Democrats worthy of your support, most notably Bernie Sanders.
AOC, sadly, with this just proved herself as an unprincipled politician who just talks the right talk but when push comes to shove doesn't walk the walk.
Actions speak louder than words, and if in her actions she betrays the principles she claims to have for this, what else will she betray when its convenient for her?
Might want to support the Democrats who actually stick by the principles they say they have rather than annoint "heroes" and "saviours" based purelly on the quality of their talkie-talkie and then mindlessly rage when they're criticized for not following in action the principles they claim to have.
Bernie is not a Democrat
I wish more people could understand that. So many people are still angry that the Dems won't make him their candidate, but he is NOT a Democrat.
The presidential nomination is the highest award the party can give to a member, and they are going to give it to someone who has been a loyal party member, raised money for them, stuck up for them when they've done stupid stuff, etc.
Bernie is none of that. He may caucus with the Dems, but he has ALWAYS been an independent. For many years, he was the ONLY independent. He doesn't raise money for them, doesn't get in on their nefarious little backroom deals, doesn't defend their nonsense on talk shows, etc. he's been almost as critical of Dems as Republicans.
So the DNC is NEVER going to give him their nomination, any more than they'd give to a Republican. Imagine if the Dems decided to give the Democratic nomination to John McCain because he had a career of bipartisanship. Bernie is basically the same thing.
Ok, I'm not an American so clarify this for me: was he also not a Democrat when he was a Candidate in the Democrat Primaries against Hillary Clinton (hence then it was allowed only because of that) or has he left the party in the meanwhile (hence we would not be able to run for it now) or was he always an Independent and it was always allowed?
Because if AOC trully is the ONLY hope for the American left, you people are indeed trully fucked if she turns out to have "flexible" principles.
The desperation of having no other viable option would explain the "She's CANNOT be criticized" style of feedback I'm getting to criticizing her for, in this subject not actually standing for the principles she claims to have, including people talking about the whole "we have to vote for the lesser evil" part, which only makes sense if there is literally no other viable candidate from the left side of the Democrat Party and hence AOC being less than honest being panic inducing for anybody not a full-on neoliberal (which would explain the number of people whose response to me was little more than personal insults)
There are no other candidates for her elected position. So we could not vote and let another republican in or vote for her if you live in her district. Not understanding this is why you are a dumb ass. I'll keep using personal insults when they fit.
Sure mate.
You insulting others is a veritable public service - it quickly signals to everybody else how much of your point is the product of "reasoning" and how much it is mindless emotionalism (exactly the same way MAGAs operate, so congrats on that) so saves everybody else time and effort.
Do keep up tagging yourself like that random internet stranger! 👍
You seem to know so little about US politics that you are overconfident in your opinions. Like a real life Dunning-Kruger situation. Being stupid is something that can be remedied, but you are for sure very dumb when it comes to US politics.
Also, idiots tend to hide behind big words and logic.
Was, specifically for the primary, and then left.
Yes, we are truly fucked, and if you check our political history, have practically always been truly fucked, remain truly fucked, and continue to be truly fucked - as evidenced by our current administration and the last... All of them.
We had to fight a civil war to convince a solid half that slavery had to stop. And then kept doing it anyways, and still do it today. The whole empire sits on the graves of the original people, the survivors of whom still live in reservations we put on the shittiest possible land, and have for centuries now with no change regardless who's in power.
This is the USA. This has always been the USA, once you peeled off the Hollywood varnish.
Oh man, that explains the rage I'm getting for just being a Skeptic and daring criticize AOCs "inconsistency".
Sorry for you guys!
It's always easy to be pretty strict about Principles and Skeptic about the motivations of those in politics, when one sits outside with no real stake in a race and hence no real emotional investment in it.
(Mind you, I've been just the same towards the leading figures of the political parties I was a member of in the countries I lived in, so maybe it's something else - as I see it, the more important the person the more important it is that they behave beyond reproach)
That said, America didn't seem to always been fucked - surely there was a post war period up until the late 70s were for most things were pretty good (certainly as a kid I used to look up to that America), though with the caveat that it was only true if one wasn't an Afro-American.
Even if we agree that the US was always somewhat fucked, surely the current level of being fucked is pretty record setting?!
Anyways, you take care and good luck.
About that...after WWII, the US fought two major proxy wars with the USSR, including the Vietnam War, which had the "bonus" of being partly motivated by France being unable to secure colonial rule, as well as other "bonuses" like heavily documented crimes against humanity and, domestically, events like the May 4th, 1970 Kent State Massacre, where national guardsmen were dispatched to disperse a 2000 student peaceful protest, leading to the murder of 4 unarmed students and injury of 9 more, when they began firing indiscriminately into the crowd. Extra "double-bonus" of charges against the 8 indicted being dismissed by a judge and none of the victims or their families receiving anything in the way of meaningful compensation (civil damages were ultimately reduced to legal costs, despite the finding that the killings were unjustified and illegal).
And that's just the tinniest slice of this shithole's history that has been largely papered over with propaganda boosting the myth of the US being the "shining city on a hill" and champion of democracy. Don't even get me started on the US treatment of South and Central America throughout its history.