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Ignorance is not an excuse for bad parenting.
Damn, got 'em. Actually, they deserve to lose $16,000 while raising a gambling addict because they didn't pull up their bootstraps and micromanage everything their preteen does in "that colorful game they play."
Mate, asking under-13s to get parent permission is provoking that good parenting you seem to care about anyway—what on earth is the problem?
Parental controls (or just not inputting card details into a phone the child has access to) is a fairly effective way to prevent the child spending the parent's money without then knowing. Micromanagement is not typically considered good parenting; however showing interest in, and having some knowledge of, what your child spends significant time doing is.
Do you have children and have you had to use parental controls for some games? The controls largely suck so much and just end up being a source of endless frustration. They are not what I would call effective.
Preventing purchases should (as far as I am aware, is) be an app store level setting on mobile devices. Parental controls should be better than they currently are, but ID requirements (or other PII) are not the solution.
Okay. So is requiring under-13s to ask their parents. I don't see what the issue is.
the issue is forcing everyone for giving up sensitive personal information.
Okay. So argue about that then. What does bad parenting have to do with it?
this law is the result of bad parenting. if parents would parent, nothing like this would be needed
criminals are the result of bad rearing. if people weren't poor and parents would parents, no criminal laws would be needed
Wow. The world sucks then, doesn't it?
This comment is a parenting related issue, the technicality illiterate might forget to take the proper precautions when letting their child use their phone and blame the game instead of taking responsibility for their actions.
No, you're making it one to sidestep an issue.
If this bad parenting happens often enough to be a real problem, then whining into the wind that "no one has any common sense anymore," or whatever you're doing, isn't a solution.
I do blame the game a little because it's a game that really, really, really wants you to spend money on diamond gem funbucks.
Let me ask you this question, hm? You don't want to show your ID even though we all do that for alcohol—fine. Why not: $80 up front, all banners are periodic DLCs, some of them free, there is more than enough korok seeds in game to get all of them, and they never expire—infinite time to twiddle your thumbs before completing them. Would this not solve your ID problem?
That is, unless you would like to spearhead this global movement to teach underprivileged parents how to configure their phones?
of course thats not a solution. but what can you do? lawmakers wont make laws that make the parents responsible for their negligence. sometimes it's not even intentional negligence, but that they don't even know what should they do, and how can that be done
that's fair, I do too. I also blame all the commercial social networks, if I can call them that way
just let me remind you that that happens offline, and it is provable if copies are not preserved. normally you just show it and that's it.
if someone cannot properly configure their phones, then they need to be made liable for the consequences their negligence causes.
You elect lawmakers.
Fascinating.
So, this is exactly the problem I have with you and the other person. It's this contempt you have for your fellow people. It's extremely selfish. This isn't how you talk to your neighbors. You're not getting invited to any cookouts or block parties with this attitude.
If you and I can agree that children shouldn't be in casinos, then they shouldn't be allowed into the casino. I am open to your suggestions.
well I personally certainly don't. I have too little power to do that, and I'm afraid too much care about non-existent made up problems, and too few about things like this.
your response actually is! does not sound too genuine.
children shouldn't get uncontrolled access to smartphones. access needs to be controlled by the parent. For medicine and cleaning things most already know to place those items out of children's reach. from this aspect, we would need to tackle the problem that the children obtains the parent's phone. some small items, maybe cleaning appliances too, are made to have a bad bitter taste so that children don't want to put them in their mouth. according to that pattern, we would need to mandate that online services are ugly and irritating to use. but is that the solution we actually want? I don't think so. or could we just ban services that are tuned to make people addicted, like drugs? but how do we define that, and that too is a double edged sword.
but ultimately, we either make casinos unattractive, or make the parents be the casinos' first line bouncers, in the digital world.
the first one sounds good, but the internet and even social media is not only for taking advantage of people, contrary to casinos.
the second one requires cooperation. how would you incentivise cooperation? tie benefits to it,or part of the benefits, through child protection services or something?